Oak with hol is a beast and, as his name suggest, he is very hard to kill but hol recharge is 30sec and in that time 2v1 youll kill him or force him to retreat shielded.

Let him shield and use hol, when he is out of shiled you have 30 sec to deal 5000dmg nothing impossible with 2 demigod, plus you can both have hol and use it while he his grasped or retreating.

But i thin that hol shoul not work when you are in oak shield, qot shield or misted (in mist you regen only mana, but still...)

Towers farm is very powerfull but is effective only on crucible and prison because those maps are flawed, to deal with him in other map just don't let him ammass that many tower, or just contain him and control the rest of the map.

it takes 80 seconds to set up 8 towers. i think thats plenty of time to put together a response. i'm pretty sure that if you leave ANY demigod alone for 80 seconds they'll screw you pretty bad. 

if there's one change to the Rook Towers that i might get behind it would be an adjustment to their life cycle and health pools. 

i'd like to see them naturally live longer (2 minutes instead of 90 seconds) but would automatically lose health if their host Rook was more than 30 units away from them. that way remote tower farms would be harder to set up and they would be much easier to remove if you killed the Rook, but it would keep the strong ground holding ability that Rook is designed to have. 

oh, so now he needs backup from another DG, eh?

so we can talk about how much a pain in the ass it is when a Sedna and a Torchbearer go in and decide to camp your portal flag. 

or we can talk about how Oak and Unclean Beast will assassinate infinite demigods in -14 seconds. 

come on man. 

Two days ago I played a fortress match against a Rook with a Queen of Thorns as an ally on Crucible. QoT would bramble shield him so he could set up towers and attack our defenses without taking damage. He set up a group of towers in the lane leading out of our base so we couldn't get out. It was ridiculous, although my ally and I stuck it out through the whole match in hopes of a comeback. Naturally, it didn't come close to happening.

what the heck kind of question is "how long you been playing?" the game is a month old. i've been playing since release. 

you want to have a pecker contest so you can whip out your "beta tester" package and say yours is bigger than mine?

go ahead, your obviously more interested in one upmanship and winning the internet than having a reasonable debate. 

I agree with 2, 3, and 4.

However, 1 is patently incorrect. Rook's towers are easily countered by QoT and TB's AoE damage. Considering this is 1/4 of the currently available DGs, the odds that one of them are playing against you are pretty decent. I play TB and I rarely have trouble destroying Rook's towers (and hurting him in the process, if he is standing nearby).

Sorry for asking the question, "how long you been playing?". It was an outrageuos question which was really stupid and offensive. Or maybe I was just curious whether or not you had been playing the game for one week or for one month...But thats a stupid assumption to make isnt it? It just sounded like you were one of the players who had just got the game last week.

I still think the Rook's tower needs a small hp nerf. They arent crazy OP, but it would just be a lot more balanced imo if they were slightly easier to kill with other characters other than QoT + TB as mentioned above

Go for the middle ground then, less then in beta but more then he currently has now. As they're some situations where simply the wrong demigod came and now you're dead even if you run at 100% hp. (Done it with UB, erebus, and sedna to rook at some point.) Just feels like he has no options to counter anything outside of hiding behind 8 tiny towers.

Are you kidding ? Erebus isn't autowin anymore, and is perfectly balanced, deal with it.

What if you're not playing one of those classes? Should I just disconnect in the first minute if I see I'm playing against a Rook?

I don't see the problem since it does low damage, low heal. The nerf brought the damage back into line with comparable abilities, now its just like using penitance or mines or rain of ice where you are doing some damage and debuffing your opponent. Keep your armor up to a respectable level so he can't put you into negatives and you won't have to worry about bite. 

He also needs to wait until after combat has started to get the most out of his bite, by which point it may be too late since his HP is low.

Give me a break, it takes a while for the Rook to setup his tower farm. What were you doing during that time? Making cookies? Plus, Generals Minions builds and Frost TB will own that tower farm.

Oak Shield does not protect him from Stun or interrupt effects. Those shut down HoL. I play Oak enough to have experienced this plenty of times.

Erebus is fine now. That perma Mist form never worked against my team and I mean never, not even on Exile. All you have to do is make sure Erebus minions are dead when your wave of creeps goes through. The perfect job for a TB.

If Erebus is going directly into mist after he bites, the debuffs from bite aren't worth much, now are they?  In order to get the most out of bite, Erebus has to time his attacks very carefully, to include managing healing so that he enters combat at something below optimal health.  It's not that easy to do.  While I agree with you that Erebus in the hands of a skillful player is still one of the more powerful demigods in the game, a further nerf at this point is just ridiculous.  I have mixed feelings on the HoL exploit.  Part of me thinks that it should be removed for both Mist and Shield, and part of me thinks it should stay.  Either way, it's not a particularly big deal.

As far as the Rook is concerned, his OP-ness is extremely map and opponent specific.  On a map with limited avenues of manuever and lots of chokepoints (Crucible, Exile and kinda sorta Cataract) against opponents that are crap at attacking structures, you can have problems, but even then every single demigod has the ability to attack structures efficiently, either through skills or minions in the case of generals.  Rook and QoT using intelligent teamwork on Crucible is basically the most extreme case imaginable, and even then they're going to be hard pressed to deal with an Erebus that can jump across and retain flag control (QoT is at a disadvantage solo vs. a good Erebus and Rook cannot leave his farm to recap in this situation), a Regulus or TB taking on the farm, UB spitting, Oak's minions, etc.  Sedna, because of how crappy Yetis are, is the only DG who really has little to say vs. a Rook and his tower farm, but even she can be very effective in support of an allied DG with Heal, Silence and moving in for a Pounce burst when Rook gets low on HP. 

As much as I find Rook frustrating at times, I would rather not see him get nerfed.  He has significant downsides to go along with his advantages.