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ITT: We discuss how UP erebus is now.

By Chaosnaska on May 16, 2009 12:27:40 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

The nerf was overdone.

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TheBigOne
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May 16, 2009 7:52:57 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Ehm you guys, you have no clue, Erebus is easily playable with his minions without this silly bite... I guess you never actually tried to play with him without bite

go play me if you don't believe me

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Axyun
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May 16, 2009 8:55:43 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

The fact that people think Erebus without bite is no good says something right there. It seems that nerfing bite is the right thing to do and, if he is now UP, his other abilities should be looked at for potential buffs. That is IF he is UP. So far it seems people are still doing just fine.

I seem to recall people saying the nerf wasn't enough when it was first released. Now its too much?

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WarlokLord
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May 16, 2009 9:35:37 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting DalzK,
reply 15
IMO Erebus is still a bit OP.

You obviously cant use him right if you think he is UP. Been using him for a long time and it feels like nothing has changed except his spike damage has been slightly reduced...

Thus far I agree with you (not that he is overpowered, but that the character is far from crippled). Only slightly less effective in melee. Still plays about the same for me (which is quite acceptable).

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May 16, 2009 10:42:55 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

EB needed a tone down if you actually play him it is not to bad. Rook towers well if you nerf them he needs a buff in armor/healt/speed. Oak i see the only complaint is last stand where he gets 10 free seconds to attack anythen. Rag well if played right he is deadly but if not he blows but that can be said bout any DG.

UB spit IMO is fine mid to late game its the early to mid game where spit hurts. Get more health regen stuff/pots/favor etc...]

QoT needs a buff somewhere but we all need to understand this is not a solo pvp game its based on 5v5 pvp.Also remember everyclass needs a class that is difficult to kill and a class is easy for them to kill.

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May 16, 2009 11:11:42 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Darvin3,
reply 20

I'd argue that Oak is OP, but I don't think that would get the wild support bite has. Oak is a harder character to use, but he's some fantastic when he does it right.
Totally agree; Oak is a fantastic character, and probably the only general whose minions are anywhere near strong enough.

Like most generals, I think Erebus needs some buffs to his minions, maybe a buff to mist form, and otherwise he's fine.  Bite's still his ace in the hole, it's just not as strong as it used to be.  He's still by far the most mobile demigod and very deadly.

 

Except Oak has a spell taken away just to farm his minions. Erebus gets them by just being in the lane, along with another ability. Oaks minions SHOULD be stronger.

 

I honestly think, QoT shamblers and Sedna's Yetis should be buffed if anything. QoT could use a buff in general and if Yeti's were stronger maybe we wouldn't just have the Pounce/Heal bots that we do now.

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May 16, 2009 11:17:49 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums
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DeadMG
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May 16, 2009 11:26:55 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

TBO is not a noob.

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Chaosnaska
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May 16, 2009 11:49:13 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

We will know when the Forces of Darkness are balanced when...

 

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Azrailx
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May 16, 2009 1:04:03 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

yes^

and qot needs slight buff

erebus needs mana cost of bite reducded

rook needs his towers SLIGHTLY nerfed

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May 16, 2009 1:09:22 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

t_t buffing QoT, are you insane.

This forums make me sad.

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May 16, 2009 1:14:52 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums
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qot's main effective build revolves around bramble which by late game is useless

not to mention the fact that her uproot, a structure only killer, is worse than spit and other structue killing abilites ( and no spit does not need a nerf)

 

but yes i can dismiss discussion too by acting like everyone around me is too sad and pathetic to deal with (see top of post!!!)

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Chaosnaska
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May 16, 2009 1:30:20 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting TheBigOne,
reply 10
t_t buffing QoT, are you insane.

This forums make me sad.

 

 


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JagerJack
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May 16, 2009 1:36:32 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

While you're only proving his point further, Chaosnaska, I have to admit I laughed very hard at that image.

  karma for being hilarious and livening up this forum.

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May 16, 2009 1:41:53 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I've only played one game since erebus got nerfed, but i really didnt notice much of a difference. it was a 5v5, and we still won easily, while i got both kills and citadel upgrades.

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May 16, 2009 1:42:53 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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May 16, 2009 1:58:13 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums


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Esbon
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May 16, 2009 2:04:35 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Is this some new version of Godwin's Law where

"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving lolcats approaches one."

 

and the poster who uses lolcats loses and the thread is over?

 

I think so, and you should called that Esbon's Law from now on.

 

Remember, ESBON'S LAW "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving lolcats approaches one."

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Chaosnaska
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May 16, 2009 2:12:48 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Esbon,
reply 17
Is this some new version of Godwin's Law where

"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving lolcats approaches one."

 

and the poster who uses lolcats loses and the thread is over?

 

I think so, and you should called that Esbon's Law from now on.

 

Remember, ESBON'S LAW "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving lolcats approaches one."

 

All i heard was

DERP

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May 16, 2009 2:22:30 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Azrailx,
reply 11

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qot's main effective build revolves around bramble which by late game is useless

not to mention the fact that her uproot, a structure only killer, is worse than spit and other structue killing abilites ( and no spit does not need a nerf)

 

but yes i can dismiss discussion too by acting like everyone around me is too sad and pathetic to deal with (see top of post!!!)

yah bramble is useless in late game , right of course... then heal is useless to or what?

Seriously , everyone of you sign up for the ESL 3vs3 ladder starting on monday to prove your point :

http://www.esl.eu/eu/demigod/3on3/ladder/ 

 

I'll play QoT.

 

Reply #46
Azrailx
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May 16, 2009 2:24:58 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

stop making me lol

Reply #47
TheBigOne
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May 16, 2009 2:29:30 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Azrailx, you should watch the game credits then you will have another laugh

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wnmnkh
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May 16, 2009 2:30:20 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Wait TBO, why the hell is this ESL 3vs3 Cup Fortress?  All I see is suiciding Oaks running into the fortress.

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Chaosnaska
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May 16, 2009 2:32:02 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Azrailx,
reply 20
stop making me lol

 

 

CATS

Reply #50
Azrailx
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May 16, 2009 2:32:21 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

qot max bramble: 1450 damage protection

sedna's max heal: heals 1500, removes negative effects, and deals 200 damage to nearby enemies

 

hrrrrm which is better? idk

 

and i only said late game, early and mid game it is quite good so if u push ahead there u could easily win

probs best if its debuffed a little early game, and buffed more at late game

 

oh and my dad could beat up ur dad

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May 16, 2009 2:35:34 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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