Deepjay

It depends on how you play, the % attack speed can be really good if you're not completely focusing on using special attacks. I tend to rank up the assassin's stats skill more than the general's though.

For UB I sometimes use it.  Not alot.

Frankly I think they could do with just being removed. :\  The game needs more legitimate skills.

You only have 30 skills to put your 20 points you can earn into, there abouts, and 5 of those are the passive line at the bottom.. Kinda meh.

I'm not using ice because of
Staff of Renewal , flags -15% cd's
I almost always have 2-4 sec cooldown for fireball, if 2 seconds is switching between modes it just sux i'm just using rotation
Nova / fireball / circle / fireball / Nova etc, i dont want to waste my time to switch between modes and thats why i prefer some hp/mana regen and attack speed.

I´m using it when I wanna do a narrow build. Like UB with Spit, inner and that slow thing. Then I can put some stats down because it gives a neat allround buff. Some might argue there is better ways to build a DG and that this and that way is the best. It´s all situational imo. Sometimes I go for pure minion generals and use "morale" as well.

I sometimes get them on Regulus later on when I don't need any of the normal skills and I'm waiting for others to unlock.

regulus without mines and 1 point snipe ... otherwise hmm final 2 points in erebus

I'm with uvfragm and chaosbryn on that one.

A Regulus built for attack speed and life leech gets a lot more advantage from the ability boosts. That and his AoE attack makes him a monster during mid-game (lvl 10+, 15-20k gold)... usually a lot faster then most other demigod, except a UB that goes for the same build.

Why are you worried about what other people find fun about playing the game? I play Reg like this as well. I have NO activatable skills. My game is played by being underestimated by my opponents, being where I need to be and strategically outmaneuvering and outplaying my opponent. Not having 2 or 3 extra buttons to press doesnt make it any less fun, I find them an annoyance if nothing else. When I play this build all I need is my mouse and the camera keys. This allows me to have MUCH better situational awareness of the entire map as I dont need to keep a hand busy with my skills.

If you dont like to play this way, thats fine. I would never think of telling someone else how to enjoy a game. Personaly, my fun comes from excercising superior strategy over my opponents. More buttons to click gives it no greater appeal. Hell if I could control my Demigod with my mind and not have to use input devices at all Id be rather happy.

As to getting a kill by right clicking, Im sure you realise, its not that easy. You need to know who to go after, what dangers there are and you need to be able to get to a point where you can take out a demigod without a skill that dumps 1k damage on them in the first place. Not an easy thing to do. Lack of buttons to press doesnt mean less skill, its just skill you are obviously not aware of. But thats ok too

Cheers,

Chaos

So you've found a way to make the game less complicated for yourself in order to have better situational awareness.  You're trying to play chess with only knights, which -- were this chess -- you'd lose every time.  A good game needs to be complicated, and reward its players for a greater breadth and depth of skills.

What I mean to do is to point out when a game has imperfections.  The player who can have both great situational awareness as well as mastery in timing and implication of active skills should win, but as it is I worry that's not necessarily the case.

This has now become a philosophical argument, and I highly doubt you'll be convinced from a forum of an opposing view, but I doubt a game maker whose obviously put more thought and programming and animating into active abilities for characters, in a game where you have more skill points than there are passive skills to use them on, I'm feeling they side with me, and hopefully they're considering this possible flaw.

all it comes down to is ... does he beat people then he is at a higher skill level , if he doesnt hes at a lower ... to know when to go stat points and when not is strategy in itself , to win without having that nuke and going for a more endgame build is a risk which might demand more of you as a player .

I agree and think enhanced attributes only serves to show that something is messed up with the other skills design or balance if people are just using enhanced attributes. :/

To me, enhanced attributes shouldn't be there, and only serves to show the stats tracking that other things need adjusting.

I tried out the stats approach to Regulus over the weekend, and I'm pretty skeptical.  At first Skirmish was matching me against newbies, so I crushed them.  But when I got matched against halfway decent players, the skills I wasn't taking became painfully obvious.  In particular (I bypassed Snipe), it was really hard for me to actually score kills, because my enemies just ran away and I couldn't catch them.  If I'd spent more points on skills, then with the money I lost by not being able to finish off retreating opponents, I could easily have puchased items that would have more than made up for the fairly unimpressive boost you get from the stats tree.  I don't think that skipping mines would have been any better: I got a lot of kills off those and was able to use them to escape more than once.

I could see this working out in a game with larger and more experienced teams, where your teammates can cover for you until you have enough items to be a real killer, but in smaller matchups you're just too weak at the start of the game, IMO.

This warms me a bit.  I'd like this to be the case, and I still somewhat believe when against smart players, simple stat upgrades won't fly, just because there's no stun to prevent tele-scrolls and no finishing blow for retreating targets.  A large portion of active skills are built to prevent your opponent from retreating or getting them to mispredict when the time's come that they must retreat to prevent death, aren't they?

While I disagree with you on your argument that a lot of skills are luck-based (How so?  In relation to specifically Regulus, I can easily get enemies to path into my mines by placing them in the middle of the quickest route to my person, and I always check enemy life totals before starting up Snipe) you bring up a really important point that most skills give static damage while standard attack damage scales througout the game as you level, buy items, and when you put points into Enhanced Attributes.  Is that a problem, I wonder?  I'm uncomfortable passing judgment on that until more numbers are crunched.

What makes Enhanced Attributes so "huge"?  I don't understand where that sentiment is coming from.  My argument is that if programmers are going to program functions and create animations for four (and sometimes six) active abilities, there seems to be a focus there on the active abilities.  Maybe every player won't choose to get all four in one game, and that's likely where the idea of Enhanced Attributes came in, but I doubt they intended for you to not want to take any.  Again, why then would they give you more skill points than there are passive abilities?  It doesn't make sense.

By that logic, I feel my philosophy is more in line with the game's, and I wanna talk it out in hopes of juicin the devs into some smart patches.  If it's not, and the devs are fine with point-and-click-adventure builds, I'm just gonna have to deal, now won't I?  But it hasn't even been proved to me yet that stat-builds are effective early OR late game.  Someone who says "I stat-buff and I own" isn't mentioning whom they 'own' against and how.  There's too little data on the field.