Best 3vs3 team?

By lifekatana on April 25, 2010 3:55:32 AM from

Now most teams I see either stack Tier I's, Oak/LE/UB, do the classic three sedna/erebus/UB or do triple general.

My favorite triplet would be Rook/Doc Oc/QoT. Now yes you have only one stun/interrupt but honestly with the pure lane pushing power and damage of this combo, you dont really need it as the game would be well over before portals factor in.

*UB steers to close*, rook roll + hammertime, 1900 damage and 2 sec stun. Oculus chain lightnings and jumps for 2k+ damage, and queen groundspikes and waves. Now UB is 4.5k in 2 sec, has -1500 armor, and is probably being hit by a lot of minions/creeps/towers. Just push and win.

This would easily beat stacked tier I's, since they can just push without them being able to do anything about it. It would beat stacked minions teams, since Oculus and qot nukes them out of the skies. And it would also beat another rook team, since Oculus's chainlightning eats his towers.

Anyway, post yours.

Also, since I'm no longer really active(please please just nerf UB and healthstacking and balance the game) and I'm really lazy I give Lord-Orion the permission to post THE qot guide now.

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personally I like oak / beast / occulus which are all tier 1 on cataract imo. You have 2 fast interrupts, and a ridiculous amount of damage. Against your Rook / qot / occ, sure you can triple team the beast @ lvl 10. But all he has to do is get a shield / sigil and get 2 different heals from high priests / bishops and be @ full hp again, all the while slowing your attack speed by 40%, spitting for ridiculous dmg with penitence increase. Occ aoe, + surge, + ooze will bring down the entire team, with a penitence spit on the main focus. Win.

Wait a minute, you're saying this Rook, Occlus, QoT would beat LE-Oak-UB? I do think Occulus and Rook together is a good combo but if there's a queen out there vs the tier 1 characters, you won't be holding any lanes because she will be fed upon. This means you will concede before getting the chance to do these maxed out skill combos on UB.

TB/*/* and I'm good.

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Now most teams I see either stack Tier I's, Oak/LE/UB, do the classic three sedna/erebus/UB or do triple general.

Also, since I'm no longer really active(please please just nerf UB and healthstacking and balance the game) and I'm really lazy I give Lord-Orion the permission to post THE qot guide now.

OK, I'll write it up, but let you review incase I miss something.

In a Pro game QoT will rarely win against a good combo including UB because she is easy eatings.

Best 3v3 combo assuming all players are same skillz level:

Rook, UB, LE

Boulder down a lane

Swarm and stun

Grasp

While all of this is going on rook will slam, ub spits/oozes, and LE bites

UB Sedna Oak are same level as Rook Ub LE, except more survivability and better hp/dmg progression. If you last till end game oak is aoe healing everyone, sedna has high level silence, and UB should have less deaths and more gold due to heal/sheild. Rook hammer and Erebus stun can be countered with Pent, Silence, Grasp, and pounce. Add in sigils with sheild and heal you are going to have a hard time winning in a 3v3 fight.

Add in sigils with sheild and heal you are going to have a hard time winning in a 3v3 fight.

Ya, but in cata laning you don't have 3v3 clusters until portals.

What should happen with a good team is rook rolls, giving ereb and ub time to port then while the enemy dg is running away ereb pops his stun if the other teams ub/sed/oak reacted immediately they would port in just before/during this stun so they too will be stunned by ereb or they will be too far away and thus unable to help their teammate ereb's stun + roll lasts long enough that with spit ooze aa and bite you already lose 3k ish health throw slam in on that b/c of mass charm stunning entire other team and its 4k damage at level 10 in just a few seconds now UB comes and grasps (if rook couldn't get slam off now is the time) at this point one of the enemy dg's will have taken at least 4k w/o slam 5k with so they'll either be dead or have shield ported even with a heal. Now you have a 2v3. you can't push a flag against this combo b/c if they all port in and chain stun you will die and even if you don't push you can still get ganked esp without a tower for teammates to port to

Although in theory sounds like a unstoppable mad push team. Rook/ub/oak or rook/ereb/ub would beat this combo quite easily on cataract. the problem is you have to split in lanes in order to have flag control and extra experience from soldiers/archers. If you take one of these demis out of rook's farm, ub/oak can gank and get kills. if you do 1 lane push with all three. Rook/oak or rook/ereb can hold them a long while with the help of towers. That would make ub get higher level than others which would eventually result in ub coming and getting kills. So on cataract this combo won't work. but on one lane crucible, this might be a pretty good combo.

If every player on earth played each demigod exactly the same way, sure. But...they do not. Not even close.

I hate seeing 'This will lose to This!'

That's bogus. It's 'This has an advantage against This'.

*sigh*

Now while I don't agree completly with this, I think this is a very good anylisation(whatever) of team comps. For instance, qot will absolutely destroy and build of oaks(including minions).

On the rest of the comps. Oculus+UB+ another tier I is a very good combo and would have a decent advantage against Rook/qot/Oc, because Oculus si very good in destroying both rooks towers and qot's minions.

Rook LE Ub is a very interesting combo aswell, since you stack stuns and power, however you are very suspecible to hard harrasment which Oculus and qot particulary excell at(due to ranged properties).

I'm pretty sure Spirits fly over Ground Spikes? I know they do for Boulder Roll and Hammer Slam does minimal damage to them because of the distance of the Z axis.

Plus, if you spike while in a creepwave with a ward in it, the spirits you kill will be resurrected instantly (if you can actually hit them).

Ground spikes hit spirits. Lifekatana and I were kinda surprised too, it's "groud" spikes for god sakes.

ya kinda like they hit reg in wing form. I mean, he's flying over the ground, surely a little earthquake won't hurt him.

Obviously they are 4 dimensional.

Spikes that are sharp in all directions... she is a goddess after all.

Queen is also not easy eatings until late game... UB can not push her until level 5 on maps like cata that have a nearby tower. No DG can cut through QoT's shield and monk heals faster then the tower and her can cut through them, early game. This is a problem early for all DGs on popular maps, because she can extend out and hit at range, and then make it easily back to safety if engaged, so unless you are rook with a monk, 1on1 QoT is going to push you our of lane (you cannot even park beside tower once injured, you must park behind it because of her range). On the flipside, on maps like prison you are Fuxxored as QoT.

From 5-10 Ground Spikes are all around devastating in group combat, because they guy with armor reduction who gets focused runs out of the fight before skills refresh, or he is dead.

13+ QoT is toast vs pretty much any DG 1on1, and in a group fight Spikes aren't so good on armor anymore. Best to try and spike on creeps, towers and the cit as priority where armor is still weak, and queen can do tremendous damage in a short amount of time.

Yes. lifekatana .

u said about 4500 damage and 2 sec stun and 1500 armor down????????

IS OVER OAK/EREBUS/UB???????????

In 10 seconds...

Oak penitence x2 + surge = 2050

oak sheilds ub when ub is getting ganked

erebus bite x2, 1400 damage + 1400 heal

mass stun for 3 FUKING SECONDS FOR ALL 3 ENEMY DEMIGODS

UB spit twice + stun (ALSO FUKING 3 SECONDS) + ooze = what is it?? 5000 DAMAGE ?????????????????????

RESULT? TOTAL OF 1 0 0 0 0 DAMAGE IN 1 0 SECONDS

AND 20 SECONDS LATER, OCULUS HAVE A 10% CHANCE TO SURVIVE WITH HP OF LESS THAN 1K

AND BOTH ROOK AND OC GET SLAUGHTERED

BECAUSE OF EREBUS OAK BEAST HAVE AT LEAST 6K HEALTH + SIGIL IS TOTAL 27000 HEALTH AND

NO WAY USELESS 1900 HAMMER + BOULDER CAN KILL ANY OF THEM

boulder roll 2 seconds stun vs penitence stun + mass 3 sec stun + grasp 3 sec stun === wtf??

oh yes rook/ub/oak can maybe stop ub/oak/LE

but they can't kill both oak/ erebus

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