Exxcentric

ok i might muck around a bit with the mod this weekend, and will look into magic mirror and nightmare

OK - more thoughts on eviction.  I played several games of favor mod last night and noticed a trend.  If I started using eviction, the game would go on forever.  We were playing on high towers, so that might have been part of the problem, but I'm thinking it needs some changes.

First - I think I encountered a bug related to it.  Let's say I have 2 eviction scrolls and cast eviction on the ub on the other team.  He gets sent back to the crystal.  So, now I have 1 eviction scroll left.  He comes back out to fight me again.  As soon as the cooldown for eviction ends, I cast it again.  He isn't sent back to base (which is by design), but I've lost my scroll. 

In another scenario - let's say I do things differently.  I go out with 2 scrolls.  Cast the 1.  Go back to base to get another 1 (bringing my total count to 2 evict scrolls) and then use it again on ub as soon as the CD expires.  Ub still won't be ported away, but in this scenario, I don't lose my scroll.

Anyway, here's what I'd change.  Set the max number of evict scrolls that you can carry to 1 per slot and increase to CD timer substantially (I'm thinking 2 minutes).  Or, if its possible, give everyone 1 eviction scroll at the start of the game and remove the item from the shop.  No idea how to do that.  But if that was possible, I'd make it an instant cast item and perhaps make it so it removes any enemy dg within a cast radius.  That way it could be saved until late game for a save, etc. 

Well, taking up a consumable slot would be fine, but I hear yah - that would be interesting as far as some scripting options if it was possible to have a dg spawned at the start of a game with an item set, etc. 

That would be a good improvement methinks (even if all you did was make it so that you could only carry 1 per slot - that would work too)+ cooldown increase + price increase.  I was thinking about having it at the artifact shop too, but that really wouldn't make any difference on some of the maps that have the artifact shop right at the base.  Still, that said, I'd say move it to the artifact shop anyway. 

Glad do hear its not that difficult, I'll start compiling what I think are the most useful items as is.

been playing a ton of favor mod games lately.

I would highly recommend using the optioning method detailed in BuffAffects.lua (in the ModHealthDamageData comments) if you want to keep using hard overrides, because I cannot guarantee that I won't change something else significant in BuffAffects in a future UberFix release, and the whole point of non-destructive modding is to avoid having to change your mod every time someone else changes theirs.

Again, if you have any questions about how to make some of your overrides non-destructive, post them here or in the UberFix thread, or PM me, and I can help you out.  I'm willing to add more infrastructure to the UberFix to enable non-destructive BuffAffects modding if necessary, but I'm pretty confident that there are ways to accomplish just about anything else needed using callbacks or a DoTakeDamage hook (which I think your mod already has).

thx for the update!  Always good to hear from you. 

Ok lol, since you dropped another line in the enfos thread (i thought i would reply here) i thought i would give everyone a bit of an update.

I am getting there one small change at a time. There is still ALOT of things that i would like to do the FavorMod and there will be another version at some point (so far i have spent 15+ hours doing stuff on it -- that said it is nowhere near ready for a new release as most of it is invisible behind the seen's coding and stuff -- tidying up folders, recompatiblising favormod with mithys uberfix changes etc.

Also i would like to finish a couple of items i never released, do a bunch of balance and fixes etc.

So it is comming, when -- well i dunno atm but hopefully soon. (i just hope there are still a few ppl around to have a go with it when i release it)

Cheers Exx.

hi mate,

Unfortunetly at the moment there is not a list. I had one up until about Version 1.8 but then pulled it down because it was about 10 pages long , which was a bit excessive for a first post -- individual descriptions about 70 different items is a LONG thread lol.

Easiest way to check them out is to just mouse over them all in a game then restart the game when you find one you like. 

I will look into doing this again for the next version i release -- as well as adding a new video.

Cheers for the interest, exx

BTW if you have any questions about any of the items post them up. I am more than happy to let you know how any of them function etc.

I'd like to say that FavorMod rocks.

I have been playing a bit - single player and multi with a friend and I'm not sure I want to play without it.

We have found some nice items in the mix, along with others that we can't seem to love - but each of us agrees that Hellfire rocks!

Looking fwd: to the next update

I'll break down my fav/least fav for you soon.

Hellfire minions are a bit (very) squishy but they seem to give decent dps and are a traveling mana battery. 
I find myself rarely worrying about mana regen and end up skipping some items I might otherwise need.
I end up with much less downtime.  Depending on the DG I may still need to back off - but (especially with a general) I am usually right back in..  or by the time I hit a new flag my mana is way up.

I can't speak for how they work in a Pro game but I like them.

As a matter of fact - I just played a vanilla game and found myself gimped a bit.  I need to play more games without these items as I am used to relying on them.

Great Mod

I hope many of the ideas in this mod are added to DG2 or a new patch to DG. Would be great to have a more people starting games with favor mod on it extremely fun.

A few idea for new items:

Bag of holding: makes the favor item slot a 4th item slot

- this would be weak early game but having another slot mid to late game would be great, and if there where more items that where 1 only per slot this would have even more use.

Bag of many: creates a random item based of player level when used a new random item is created after the cool down time ends.

- if you use an item it still activates the cool down time for that item if in another slot.

- Up to level 5 only items 250 or less

- level 5 to level 10 any item 500 or less

- level 10 and up items 500 to 1,000

Bag of holding is a concept that i have been trying to implement for a very long time.

Problem is that as pacov said it requires a significant rewrite of the shop code as this slot only operates with the favor shop.

I will will see what i can do tho.

As for your other item Bag of many seems like a very fun concept (even if it relys on a random effect): did you want it to perform the abilities of consumables?

ie first cooldown random picks health pot

second mana potion

third sigil

etc

heh - its also completely awesome.  Even just a standardized mod that gave you an extra item slot by default would catch the interest of quite a few folks.  It opens up more than a few possibilities.  But that said... PITA to make it happen.