alban987

With no accountability (can make a dummy account) I smell griefing.

Are you fucking serious?

Alban what's your game name? Want to add you for making this terrible website.

Banlists do nothing but seperate a community and cause people to be petty little morons.

NO NO NO NO NO! VERY BAD ALBAN!

quoted for truth.

with the current connectivity issues, ragequiting may not even be occuring at this time. also i think it would be better off to wait until clans are implemented, you could join one and play "inhouse" games and not have to worry about people leaving.

Centralized banlists have not and will never work.  There is an extreme lack of authority and accountability.  Anyone can ban anyone effortlessly.

Additionally, there's not even any evidence - there's no replays to show what happened.  Stats are bugged out so you can't even prove who was where.

This is a failure.

This would be bad enough if it was centralised and part of helping the moderators distribute ingame karma or whatever fFrogboy mentioned earlier, but it seems a third party site dedicated to such things will just turn into mud slinging at people for no real raeson. Sure in the happy go perfect world this might be useful to a degree, but this is the internet with anonyminity. Not to mention what use is such a site, who is going to alt tab to the banlist in every custom game they play and then bitch out anyone on the list.

This, if it did happen, would ruin the game experience for this person and they may not even know what they have been accused of. The whole idea while may have had good intentions seems ultimately flawed and will only serve to either disrupt the community, or just become a source of people bitching at each other.

If you play someone you don't like playing with personally, keep a note yourself, or wait for a feature that lets you track these people, there is no reason to share your greivences with another player with everyone on the planet.

See now that is actual constructive criticism.

One of the ideas I had to mitigate that was a system similar to Reddit or other sites of that ilk where you can upvote or downvote bans.. So if there is already a ban listed for a player you would simply upvote it and add your own piece to it.

I'm perfectly open to suggestions and am completely willing to craft this to the community's wishes and wants. Just don't come at me with both barrels blazing. Tell me something constructive and it will be considered for sure.

The wc3 banlist was a bit of a clusterfuck.  I ended up deleting all my "publicly uploaded" records and only use my friends ones.  Too many times people are banned even though they did nothing wrong.

And in a casual game like this, you can expect the general competency level to not be as high as DoTA.  Thus, you're going to have an extremely divided community which is probably not a good thing.

If there needs to be one of these "lists", a whitelist is much better.  That way, people aren't punished for not playing well enough, or leaving for valid reasons, etc.

Indeed Lord_Byte, WC3Banlist was a useful tool.  I mainly used it because it made it easy for me as a host to keep track of problem players and keep them from ruining further games.

Alban I think its simply too early for something like this. Until they can get the connection problems fleshed out.

 And then for you DOta players you guys know the all too common Banlist on there. And some of the "I AM PRO LEET PLAYER LOL" that will ban you for having a bad game. Plenty abuse that tool on Dota games and I was banned for example by a host because he said I sucked. I may have sucked that game I admit but its not a bannable offense, especially since I don't suck every game.

Ehh... didn't even work when I registered and tried to log in. You want constructive criticism? I'll give you constructive criticism.

First of all, the site looks like crap. There was no message the first time I logged in. I was confused and thought that my browser had not finished loading the page because the page didn't look finished.

Second of all, the user interface is horrible. After I registered, no confirmation came up. I was confused about whether or not my account was created.

And on top of that, I agree when everybody says that a central banlist is absolute crap. Look at the good it did for DotA. It is easily bypassible by just creating a new name, and the only thing it insured was that the people operating the banlists were absolute dicks. People still left and people still hacked. Forcing the accuser to bring a valid replay and screenshots would be a great move in the right direction.

While banlists for griefers aren't so successful, I would push for more of a banlist for hackers. You can't just rely on software to detect the cheaters and allowing people to do the job would be much more efficient. HOWEVER, the people who shout "HAX" everytime they die should be factored in when creating such a banlist.

Well then provide sufficient incentive for the treshold to be high enough, a banlist is gonna happen sooner or later, whether you like it or not...

I've banlisted like 8 people over the course of half a year that were generally being arseholes, or actual honest to god feeders and quitters, two ended up in a game with me again, one I informed and he started raging again (kick) and the other apologised, and we played a fun game, after which I removed him from the list.  Most did have an upvote and I used those quite a lot though

with no independent means of verification of the claims on the ban list this cannot be administered in a fair way. 

the only acceptable means of proof ought to be an in-game replay video of the incident. until that can be posted you should not go forward with your website.