DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

By on December 21, 2009 3:02:07 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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December 21, 2009 3:03:02 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Anyone who doesn't follow win percent

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December 21, 2009 4:32:59 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Wow, this is a hard one. I've played with many people whom I consider very good but I can't say who's best of them. It all so much depends on the teams etc.

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December 21, 2009 4:55:59 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Demigod is a teamplaying game..

I think the question isn't correct.

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December 21, 2009 5:05:06 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

@Zavu:

Fix'd: Who are the best Demigod teams?

Answer:

there are like 10 2-man premades and a handful of 3+ premades. Remember, the community chased them off.

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December 21, 2009 6:50:33 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

people CURRENTLY playing?  toughy.  Outside of the ppl I premade with (obv. in my top list)..

 

Orcun_BL and NinkiCZ

 

I keep thinking of names.. then checking only to find they pretty much stopped playing.  It's depressing.. as was trying to get a game tonight, wondering why it took so long to fill up, then checking opengames to see < 40 ppl in game / lobby / queue.. then checking a couple hours later to see the same thing

 

Edit:  Apparently Orcun isn't really playing much either.. k then.  

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December 21, 2009 6:58:16 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums
tshughes FutileEmotion Never won againts their oak ereb combo. Not manay people did. They dont play anymore but they had all skills needed: -map orientiation -teleport support/ganking -knew well how to push line/towers Seriusly there is no secret builds, items combo or unbeatable strategies. I would say 10% of players understand when to: push towers, go for kill and why warrank is so important. Those people are really on the same level so it would be hard to nominate anyone special out of it. No one can win game if ur teammate feeds or dont care about flags and cant keep line by himself.
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December 21, 2009 10:13:39 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

There are some really good team players, really good pug players, and really good lobbygod players.

I'm just going to cast my vote for what feels like the best players for each demigod.  I recently picked up DG again and have been mainly straight puggin it but I'll hopefully start playin in a competitive team again soon once I scrape the rust off.  Some of these players have probably left, but they'll be back.  I've decided to set the restriction that I can only vote for a player once.

BEST DG PLAYERS (imo)

Beast:  Kalel, RAWRRR, Jona_, Pantz (ooze4lyfe)

Erebus:  Morpheas768, DS-Armyhomestar, tshughes

Oak:  Naur, Kingslet

Sedna:  Abuggeredhedgie

Queen:  Cosmoe

Reg: Orcun, Chaotic-Hawk

Demon Assassin:  Shred_demon (all others were terribad)

Rook:  Posidenii, Obscinator, Ninki, PlaygroundLegend

Torch:  Atma44x... ?  Haven't played vs a good torch in a while

 

Of course this list is restricted to players I've played with/against off the top of my head.

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December 21, 2009 1:10:31 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Peterdumptruck - minion erb and minion oak.  Bumped into him several times.  He's probably got the best minion style of play out of anyone I've ever played with.  He can be a grouchy fart though

I second you re: atma's tb.

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December 21, 2009 1:25:05 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

For beast i'd like to nominate Pacov with his insane suicidal play style

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December 21, 2009 1:55:35 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I think ThatGuyYoulove and bloodlust are good too

 

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December 21, 2009 3:14:54 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Naur has a pretty vicious DA too!    I have a tenative list, but I really don't think I play enough yet to make any meaningful contributions.  A lot of guys seem really good to me. 

Anyway, seriously.  There should be a way to generate a list of all team combinations from these players, then have them play it all out as a mini-tournament of sorts.    I think it would be really nifty fun thing to do.  It would be like a "high end" league of sorts so we DO have a meaningful competitive statistics.

I think it should be

- closed ended, once the people are registered, there are no new players added or removed

- everyone plays the same team combinations, i suppose there are some weaknesses to this approach since early players can then tell their future teammates any secret strategies.

- fixed number of games into a final tournament of sorts, where the 6 top players form two final 3 man teams and play in some best of 5 thing.

Think this might drum up some interest?   

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December 21, 2009 5:29:38 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Orcun was the best DG player i have ever seen, shame he isnt back, there are many other good old school players.... but Orcun deserves a spot in the hall of fame.

His Regulas skills where amazing, and his Beast was just insane.

Since the last Reset i have not seen many exceptional players except for Spookys Rook and DiceareEvils DA ( that game we played was awesome.

 

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December 21, 2009 5:37:22 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

added naur's da and orcun's beast

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December 21, 2009 8:31:27 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Mybones92 is a great support oak and forever mist erebus.  Naur is the best regulus I've ever encountered always PuGin too.  And Orcun's UB is what I based mine on .  Darz4 is a great QoT, if she were improved darz would def be in the top 10 players list.  Mcshane's sedna is also crazy, I played someone else's sedna I cant remember the name but I couldn't kill them for anything. Sintet with reg.

 

And can't believe Heros-Temp- hasn't made it up there, hes basically amazing with anything.  Viras's ice tb is crazy if I am remembering right.

 

Peterdumptruck's erebus is a cookiecutter minion build that he has played 2000 times , he does play it well but it is easily counterable and useless in a pro 3v3.  He also will stand at an HP crystal until his team concedes not even 8mins into the game which is the only reason I will not play with him.

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December 21, 2009 8:35:44 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

the guys who regularly roll me in pantheon are

 

magla

spooky_

hitboxes erubus was legendary back when he played

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December 21, 2009 8:42:01 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I vote ThatGuyYouLove.

*looks away*

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December 21, 2009 10:32:56 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Jona_,
And Orcun's UB is what I based mine on

 

same thing here

 

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December 21, 2009 11:11:21 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

ughhh forgot about FutileEmotion / tsughes. Hate those two >.<

 

ErksaConti + Sakke should be no surprise but they don't play much either.

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December 21, 2009 11:42:12 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

updated. 

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December 22, 2009 12:12:32 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting RAWRRRR,
people CURRENTLY playing?  toughy.  Outside of the ppl I premade with (obv. in my top list)..

Orcun_BL and NinkiCZ

 

You almost made me throw up.

 

McShane87 - TB

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December 22, 2009 12:44:39 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting NinkiCZ,

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 5people CURRENTLY playing?  toughy.  Outside of the ppl I premade with (obv. in my top list)..

Orcun_BL and NinkiCZ


 

You almost made me throw up.

 

McShane87 - TB

 

Lol almost threw up because you're only listed for Rook? List should say NinkiCZ (random).

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December 22, 2009 1:42:55 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

no one likes to play with me

 

First person that turns this into a gay joke will die in 6 days.

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December 22, 2009 2:19:12 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

How and the hell am I not up there yet? Pretty much every one of my characters is solid and I have handed most of that list their asses in one game or another.

If I had to throw up some names:

Destroyer989: His most dominate is probably reg but hes good with them all

Bad_Wong: His play style is almost idenitcal to PeterDumptruck's and he really puts up a good fight

Amazing_Hero: Nice oak

McShane: Nice Oak

Ogham: Nice oak/sed

Lethstang: Nice oak, UB

irek1988: why the hell isn't he up yet?

eXborderline: Nice oak/erebus and with Lordi these two are an amazing premade.

Lordi17: Nice oak/erebus and with eX these two are an amazing premade.

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December 22, 2009 7:04:59 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

oh.. if we're listing best players on certain characters regardless of exactly how current..

 

Erabus - BRiiGHTT, Shade, DS_Armyhomestar

Oak - KillerOak, ThatGuyYouLove

Beast - KalelsmX, Orcun_BL , Pacov

Rook - Posidenii, TrouserSnake69, Shinobinomono

Sedna - ErskaConti, Abuggeredhedgie, McShane87

Reg - Playgroundlegend, Irek1988

 

and.. best 2's team I've faced was ErskaConti / Sakke1.  They honed their strat pretty damn well.. and were always willing to make changes with interesting ideas.  I think Erska sedna is the only person who's ever outleveled me in a competitive 2v2 lol.. bought boots of speed and a nature's reckoning before monks.  Some call that stupid, I call it genius for how my team had adopted our strat against them  They were always a tough challenge to beat.  

 

 

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December 22, 2009 7:06:37 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

JaY_BuDi 

PhYCE was an oldie.

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