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The way I see it, if you are still running Windows 7, stick with it and hold on for dear life. But if you are running that Windows 8 abomination, then anything is better than that, even (gasp) Windows 10.

So how much did you use Windows 8/8.1 to come to that conclusion?  If anything, Win 8.1 was/is better than 7, being faster and more stable, etc.  And yes, I used both extensively, so I have more than enough experience with both.

As for Win 10, it IS a POS with important features/functions removed.  For example, Windows Update has been reduced to a 'coming in' only service with no way of preventing unwanted, unneeded updates that can bork your system.  Too many Control Panel functions have been turned into 'apps' and are now in 'Settings', which strongly suggests that Microsoft is moving away from system32 programs and functions over time... that Windows will become an app only OS and all installations will go through the Store... thus providing MS with a steady income stream from 3rd party developers.

So, if anybody who thinks Windows 10 is the best thing since sliced bread, well they need to think again.  Forced Updates?  App driven only?  Important functions and features missing?  Reduced User Control?  An eventual 'Walled Garden'?  Oh, and let's not forget the telemetry and 'phone home' apps that let Microsoft know when you sneeze or fart.  Nope, it's NOT a great OS.  It's not even a good one.

Gonna have to agree with Ilsandog here. Win 10 is FAR more stable than 7 and most of the issues you mention can be turned off or addressed with an app that turns 10 int 7 functionality. Seriously why is everyone against a company making revenue? I changed over from 7 with hesitancy and since then I have not worried or looked back. 

I've got 4 more years to stick with W7 then MS will stop supporting it.  By then W 11 or W12 will be out.

In April , I bought Windows 7 Home Premium OEM version as I had just built a new and faster computer. The install went o.k. and the activation was not a problem. I soon started to experience some glitches in my system that I could not diagnose , so I wiped the drive and re-installed the OS. Activation , no problem. a few weeks later I decided I wanted to try the free upgrade to Windows 10. The installation went well, but the activation failed. I contacted Microsoft Support and they spent nearly an hour through remote desktop trying to resolve the activation issue. Finally they informed me that they would have to use a different activation key to get it activated. This worked and it activated. After a couple weeks, I still was not feeling warm and cozy with Windows 10, so I decided to re-install Windows 7. The installation went fine, no problem, but when it came to activation, it failed. I contacted Microsoft support again. They connected by remote desktop again to try to resolve the problem. After some time, they finally tell me that the activation key has been blocked by the manufacturer for abuse. I reminded them that I had built the computer myself, so it was not a manufactured computer and this is the only system that it had been installed on , as this is my only computer. They refused to listen to reason and said I could get it unlocked by buying a new activation key for $119.00  They wouldn't budge when I complained and tried to reason with them. This just happened this morning. So...not only am I out of the money I originally spent for the Windows Package, I'm also out of an activated Windows OS. This is what Microsoft thinks of their customers in a nutshell.

-- Ace --

Quoting WOM,

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I've got 4 more years to stick with W7 then MS will stop supporting it.  By then W 11 or W12 will be out.

Nope. It'll be Windows 10 from now on.

You can read about it here and here

If you think about it with an open mind, it is the logical and natural way for Microsoft to go.  Instead of having to fix issues caused by 3rd party programs under the system32 process, MS can control all installations via the Store and 'in-house'.   There'd be no more malware 'piggybacking' its way in with legitimate system32 programs and no more worms or trojans replacing or attaching themselves to key registry and/or Windows files.  So, when you say "of course [technology] is going to change", you're right, but Windows is changing in ways you're not expecting, with all your system32 programs to become obsolete and unusable.

With regard to "The paranoid nonsense people get from tech blogs is ridiculous", many of those 'blogs' are based on real life issues and complaints from real people.  I had Windows 10 forced upon me after months of resisting it...  not once but TWICE!  I've also had enforced updates bork my machines more than once with unnecessary and/or unwanted updates.  I've also had legitimate and working programs uninstalled by Win 10 during Scheduled Maintenance, as have others, so no, it's not all paranoia driven by blogs and/or media hype.  These are real issues for real people!

Maybe for now, but it won't be forever and all installations will be app based and have to go through the Store.... see links above

starkers.... for a change of scenery....go check out the flat earth fanatics...or the vaccinations abort your foetuses...and all the other whack-jobs who are convinced they are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

It's all the same....simply sad people wanting to make a noise and be heard.

...and best way to do that?

Be controversial.

CIA shot Kennedy too....

...or was it Von Daniken's aliens? ...

Like I said, have it your way... don't believe the upcoming changes to Win 10  Proof of the pudding is in the eating, however, and Win 10 users will tasting it soon enough.

Anyway, I know what happened to me and now I'm done.  What do I care if people don't want to see what's happening, much less what's coming!

That's it... in a nutshell.  Windows is losing market share and user satisfaction is at an all time low because of MS' strong arm tactics... its failure to put users needs and wants first.  I read on one forum a few days ago that an entire extended family [17 households] and several family friends had switched to Apple's OS-X because they believe MS had overstepped the mark and has betrayed the user with its methods and strategies.

I don't know that they are much better off with OS-X, though.  I personally know one person who switched to it because he felt pressured and bullied by MS, and thus far he doesn't seem to regret it.  I also know 7 people who are trying out Ubuntu and a couple trying Mint from Linux because they too feel like MS has taken over too much control of their PCs and will tighten the screws even further.   I have to agree, given the direction MS is going in, and I am also trying out some Linux distros to see which suits me best, not that I've had a lot of time to do so of late.

Having said that, I must exit this and other conversation regarding Microsoft and Windows 10.  In fact, I am taking a break from WC for a while, the forums in particular, because I need to distance myself from derogatory comments containing : "idiot" and "idiots"; "gullible" and "naive"; "whack-jobs" and "stupid".

It is conceivable that there are people who have not had Win 10 forced upon them, just as it is conceivable that people have not [as yet] had issues with it.  What annoys me is when the opposite is true.... that certain people see it as inconceivable when others have had/are having issues with Win 10, then use the derogatory names like those listed above to ram home their disbelief and unwillingness to view the issues with an open mind.

On that note, I have much to do in the real world and need to take care of it.

Last year, the big lie was Microsoft was going to start charging subscription fees for Windows 10. The big lie this year is that they will make win32 stop working and UWP will only work with the store. I don't see any of those things happening.

As far as they spying goes, I don't think anyone has proved that Microsoft ISN'T doing exactly what it says its doing with the telemetry. I am far more worried about what Google does with my data. This is one reason I stopped using Android phones in favor of windows phones (but certainly not the only reason) and have cut way down on using Google services.

I have at home a gaming computer running Windows 10 on insider build (which I upgraded from Windows 8.1 last year when Windows 10 first came out), a windows 10 phone running release version, xbox one running the preview build, a amazon fire tablet and android tablets running a variety of Android versions, along with a two work computers one running windows 10 release and one running windows 7. Before I changed positions last summer I was using a MacBook Pro running Yosemite and Windows 7 computer at work. I really do think Windows 10 is the best OS I've used, it's gotten better over the year and I think the Anniversary Update will be a big improvement over last fall's update. I think all of the "A Micro$oft ate my windows 7 baby!" hyperbole is way overwrought.