ZehDon

Meh, I already wasn't planning on getting it right away, if I have to deal with Steam too I will probably wait a year or two until we get the gold edition with everything for less than $40 (though I don't buy many games at release anymore ). It does look very cool though, but in the meantime I still have a lot more Oblivion mods to go through.

I dont buy games before release. I wait a few days and see what happens. Recent examples of games that I havent bought on release (that I consider buying later) are Heroes VI (buggy), Sword of the Stars II (buggy and incomplete), Dawn of Magic (MMO done differently, but not well) and Stronghold 3 (buggy).

I expect bugs in games, and can live with some patching. Recently I think that many games have been unplayable on release, so now I am wary.

I WILL buy the next installment of Kings Bounty on release though. They have earned my trust!

Back to Skyrim. Will look at feedback and consider buying it in a while

I'll wait till it's cheap on a sale.  By that time mods will have made it more fun.

But from what I've heard..it isn't much of an upgrade over oblivion.  The rendering still has that dead feeling, characters are lifeless, ai just as bad, UI worse.  But I'm biased against it, so..

It figures that the time I get a review copy of a new Elder Scrolls game, the PC goes up and dies. I'm going to try and run it on this thing, but I doubt it'll run. Kinda makes me wish it was made on the old Gamebryo tech, that actually ran on a cardboard box filled with hamsters.

Considering it's an entirely new engine with flowing water, snow accumulation, and other relatively pointless additions that exist just to look cool, I can't see comparisons of the rendering to the predecessor being fair.

The AI not being able to jump up on rocks and shit was a real bummer though, if they haven't greatly improved on that...

Chief, you remember how a while ago you sold Impulse for those truck-loads of money we talked about? You don't have to wait for the Holidays to afford it

preloading now... forgot that I pre-ordered this on steam sometime back.... 1.1%

Me = wonders if its midnight EST or what for the unlock... oh well.  Taking the day off work tomorrow to nerd it up.

I got some fixes for you gentlemen.  The PC version isn't 100% fully optimized (mainly, in terms of controls), but despite the bitching you might see, it is fixable without mods.  Here are some other common fixes that you might encounter:

Sound:  Alot of people are reporting staticy, and glitchy sound.  It's pretty easy to fix.  Just change your sound output to ~44Khz @ 24bit.  You can adjust it in the sound options in the control panel.  Screenshots if you're windows stupid: http://i.imgur.com/IOicc.jpg

Quick note:  For some reason, my creative sound options weren't adjusting it right.  You'd think it'd override whatever is set in windows, but I had to do it through the windows option.  Never knew this.

Control fixes:  The sensitivity of the mouse, by default, is pretty shitty.  Doing some of this will help you fix it:

-It's been recommended to turn off vsync.  You can do it through the skyrim.ini in your my games folder (located in my documents).  Put "iPresentInterval=0" under the [display] field (without the quotes, of course).

-Turning off mouse accelaration also helps.  In the same folder, but in the skyrimprefs.ini, put "bMouseAcceleration=0" under your [controls] field.

-Manually tune your mouse sensitivity to what you like.  You can do this in the skyrimprefs.ini file under the [controls] field.  Adjust the "fMouseHeadingSensitivity" to what seems to work best for you (the differences won't show until you're actually in game.  The main menu mouse sensitivity is the same).  I believe the default is 0.0125.  I adjusted mine to 0.0325.  Works great on mine end like that, but it's up to you.

Other tweaks:  Some of the old gamebyro ini tweaks will still work.  You can find an ongoing test of them here:

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1255692-skyrim-pc-ini-and-console-tweaks/

On a side note: fuck Steam.  There was no point in releasing a single player game with using a DRM that has a mixed history like that.  If the game had multiplayer, I'd have a different take on it.

Running XP or what?  I haven't had to do anything like that in years.

50 minutes!  *pacov tries to keep himself busy and awake*

Anyone see a good torrent yet?   

Can't wait to play all this hard work for free!

I've preordered a PC version with the cd...box.   Supposedly, it will be available tomorrow morning.  We will see.....

You all on steam.. have fun.... I'm going to sleep....  looking forward to trading info, stories, etc., over the weekend.....

I've only used Steam once, and that was for Empire: Total War. It was not a smooth experience. For some reason despite supposedly having the game on the disk, I had to wait hours to download something (maybe a patch, maybe the whole game again, I don't remember), found the game had all sorts of technical problems at launch (granted not steams fault, but it didn't help things), and when I decided to give up on it I eventually resorted to having my computer block it as a startup program to prevent it from taking system resources all the time (granted impulse does that too but it makes it easy to disable that feature and I can uninstall it and still play my games).

This December I may try my hand at playing Empire again as I would hope all the big issues should be fixed by now (if not they never will), and perhaps I'll find Steam as improved as well. But at the time I was not thrilled with Steam as a program to say the least (I was already using Impulse at the time with no complaints, so I'm not just against such systems either).