Sigil is an excellant item, it adds depth to gameplay, removing it would result in less stratedgy and less item choices.

I like sigils very much, regardless of the demigod that I play.  As long as it is available to all players (unlike some favor items), I don't really see a problem. 

Its expensive enough in my opinion.

I like sigil the way it is, but it is used so often - you'll almost never see a top level player play without one - that I wouldn't mind the price being bumped up a bit, to say, 750.

It's meant to be a temporary health boost, but with the 20 second duration it's effect lasts the full duration of every fight. Reduce its duration to 10-15 seconds so it actually expires mid-fight like it seems intended to.

I think the 10 second duration is a great idea

You forgot the /sarcasm tag...

For DG's with no heal/sheild, the sigil is pretty important.  Maybe reduce the time to 15 seconds, or do +40% health.  Otherwise it tips balance to Oak/Erebus/Sedna, even QoT more.

Hate sigils.  Take em out of the game.

Make it 12s

really, I enjoy sigils I think they are an important part of the game.

The issue is, really, at high-level play I always expect a sigil. This is because they are g'damn useful, which is a GOOD thing. Not using sigils and then complaining about them being OP is a sign of poor play. They are just extremely useful, to the point I always expect them.

This is one issue, the other is that is a very firm winner-keeps-winning item which is probably why so many people are angry about it.

Increasing the cost to 600, make it so you can only carry one at a time really should be enough. Now a person who sigils has to go to base after winning the fight (can't just let monk heal you up) or you won't have a sigil next time, so you will lose for sure, possibly die. Also, it's slightly more expensive so the first sigil comes slightly later in a game, it is a little more of a surprise.

Nerfing its duration really makes it happen like this:

We fight. I sigil to get a kill. You sigil in response 2 seconds later. Because you sigil'd last, you win by default since my sigil WILL wear off before yours will and then I will have 10 hp and you will go LOL DIE.

Nerfing its duration also gives a serious buff to UB. ASSUMING NO MONKS (Sedna counter healing, or whatever), if you have 600 hp before you sigil, you will have 600 hp 10 seconds later. Less if you take damage. Because all that HP disappears after 10 seconds. All of it.

So I hit you a few times, then I spit on you after three seconds. You are now basically dead because your sigil will wear off with 1 hp, Spit finishes you.

I don't think we want that.

Alright, fine, now you get a Sedna heal and a monk heal. Now you'll have 2400 hp 'reserved'. But if you take just 1400 damage in those 10 seconds, then get spit on... yeah you're still dead. Sigils become a ... item of deception. You have a buffer, but the buffer goes away really fast. Everyone will still sigil, it'll just be postponing the inevitable by 10 seconds, where the person who sigil's first always loses.

Nerfing Sigils duration will have a radical upset in a sigil's use, if it is less than 15 seconds. Combined with the upcoming nerf lock games will last several minutes longer as it is, while the losing team will have very little room for a comeback. Do we REALLY want make it even worse?

It's sad how many people want to buff damage and nerf HP stacking but they fail to realize that the more you buff damage and the more you nerf HP stacking the battles become shorter and shorter and more like an FPS. But maybe that's what kids want these days?

i say this, but drop its cost to 250 gold.

Thank you obscenitor. Thats the same i wanted to say (right after reading pacov's post).

Everybody use it. It's a must item, and nobody uses potions. I'm against that; it is not 'balance', and it must be nerfed. It must compete with other item to get into item slot, such as potions & trinkets (and with teleports & capture locs in lesser degree - and while i'm at that, i would like to see the Capture lock cost increased to 500)

I wrote down all suggestions that are in options i could think of, and majority of ppl agrees on how to do it. But not all.

@abuggeredhedgie: if you think 10 sec is too small, how about 15? I wrote that down also. I think that everybody will agree on that. (for less than 15, seems not all) My vote is also for 15sec.  Next thing you said is to maybe make it having just one max in inventory. I'm aginst that, 3 should stay, however you could increase then cd to 45 sec to compensate a bit.

Really, we dont need to do just 'one big change' (like reducing duration from 20>10sec), but we could do a couple of small changes/nerfs: 20>15sec; cd 30>45, cost 500>600(not 750 as i put in options), but it may not be needed if first 2 are applied.

So, think about it more deeply, and do it so everybody agrees.

@ gkrit: i already said before that +25% would be too small; i don't think ppl would use it then at all(!?). Minimum +33%, and then what you said (250gold) might work, but i don't think majority of ppl would agree on that.

P.S. little off topic: Amulet of teleportation should have decreased cooldown imo. From 45>30 (just like tele-scroll), or at least 35 sec. That way it will become even more competitive & desired favor item than it is now (and not many ppl use it anyway; mostly on big maps & with very specific builds), and it may reduce the valor of tele-scroll in addition, cause more ppl will use it.