GM-Janook

This is a pretty mana-intensive build. Do you ever run into mana issues?

Not a bad build, overall. Poisoned arrows are really great, I just never get to level 15 in most games. It'd be nice if we could get it at level 10.

Played a few games against Janook with some good teammates with a good team on my own. Have to say it is pretty good, and the choice NOT to get Arrows is actually very smart (I was actually thinking this last night, trying to figure out his build when I realized he didn't have any arrows).

Regarding God Strength, it happens whenever Rook hits 300 Weapon Damage (maybe 350). This happens naturally with time, or getting a few points in Stats, or even buying the Gloves of Brutality early and selling it again later. God Strength just guarentees this number at level 5.

Agree with the Staff of Renewel and lack of Arrows (early levels), as well as getting points in Stats and not getting God Strength.

I think how demigods would match up with this build, having seen it twice:

Very strong against a Sedna. Burst is larger than heals, and the Stun is killer. (Believe me, I can't remember the last time I died more than 5 times in a game. Esp 10 times. Embarrasing It's extremely uncommon and while pugging, my team has been down 20 deaths and I STILL only died a few times. This build will eat Sedna alive where I typically dont' have an issue with Aggro rook builds).

Beast might have the dps to kill you before your opponents can teleport in, even if you have a sigil. You were a very low-hp build for a Rook, and it doesn't take a lot of time to kill you. You've a MAD sort of build, 'if you come to screw with me, you'll die. I'll die too, but whatever'.

Oak might be tougher for you, because of the shield as well as the nice burst and the nice buffs he gives to friendles

Don't see you having any troubles with Reg, long range stun and a tower farm is enough to keep him from kiting while still scaring him into coming close. 

Erebus... minion might be more of a trouble for this build. Assassin not so much unless they are getting some points in Charm (which they should, after they see your build).

Queen tends to push a Rook around. I imagine that would still be the case here. Your stun and burst hammer might be enough to kill her though.

Not sure about TB. Deep Frost on your towers could be an issue.

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Fighting this sort of build (not sure if my advice is the best, since we lost, but whatever D:)

Anyway, this build is DESIGNED for large 3v3 contests, and can only handle 1v1 if your forest is up (as it should be). Countering this build, I say is just leaving him alone. Normally, fighting in a Rook's farm is a bad idea anyway, esp if his team ports in all the time. Let him push, and attack the other side of the map. Also, don't bunch up,it's a very bad thing. Always be aware of the bolder roll. Watch for the tele-boulder roll and have either a Silence queued up for when he comes(Sed), a Mass Charm in cast for the last half second, or mining his teleport location. Preventing him from getting the Boulder-Roll - Slam is essential and if you can stun lock him if he teleports in and then kill him before he can get it off should ensure victory.

This probably requires a very well coordinated and aware team on Vent, however.

12 arrows a second, 10 damage MITIGATED. This comes out to about 80-90 damage per second early-game 60-80 mid-game, assuming ALL the arrows are trained on your opponent (and it won't always be that way). This is nice, sure, don't get me wrong.

But it's still only worth roughly one more tower in your farm and the only time I've found Rook's arrows to be 'useful' is when chasing down a running demigod. If you're the one doing this, and the kill is dependent on you keeping up with your prey, which means that you have bought at least one speed item which means you have less mana or health which means...

No. Let your teammates do the chasing and killing for you. This is a team game, stop worrying about the g'damn kill count.

Arrows are a way of giving Rook a little bit of range to compensate for his lack of speed. He shouldn't be worrying about that, he should be capitalizing on what he does best: long ranged stuns, massive nukes, and towers. Not chasing demigods for kills (or even AutoAttacking at all). I think Janook made the better choice here.

Funny, I actually posted this exact build, skill for skill about two months ago. Two changes I made to it after playing it:

1) Don't get Tower 4 at rank level 10. By this point, your towers are really losing their effectiveness in combat.  Instead get Archer tower at level 8, and tower of light at level 11

2) Staff of Renewal is probably not as good as Blood of the Fallen.  After the stars left my eyes from the build, and I got down to it, I realized that I was horribly easy to gank levels 1 through 4, and that good players realize this when they see a rook with less than 3k health. So I switched back to the blood.

Note that I also make good use of rejuv potions in this build.

Remember when we played on crucible Janook and my rook was 8-0 until my teammate went afk against your rook?

I thought about this, but Tower 4 halves the mana cost of your towers. That alone is probably worth it. It really is hard to keep 8 towers up, though.

I will have to say that BotF or the teleport amulet is never a bad choice for Rook.

interesting build. I might try it out some time.

Setting up a tower farm at level 10 is indeed not as useful as it is at level 7, unless (yes there is an 'unless', imo) you do it at the enemy portal. However, if you get the chance to do that and your enemys cant counter that you were probably going to win anyway.

and because the mana costs are down, you can keep getting more and more towers and you dont run out of mana. and with staff of renewal you can make a tower farm pretty quick. altogether I'd say power of tower 4 is worth it.

I get the 4th level of tower simply for the price reduction.  With the staff of renewal, it's pretty huge.

My main concern with your build is just how exposed you are early.  Any rook needs good teammates ready to tele over to survive, but I'm not sure yours can do the lane domination that an early rook needs to supply.  

ANY LANE YOU WANT IT THATS THE WAY YOU NEED IT ANY LANE YOU WANT IT!

As many may know, I'm a fervent pure aggro Rook player. I find this thread very interesting and I'll give this build a try.

A few comments:

- with Staff of Renewal, I guess taking Towers 4 is really interessant for the 50% mana reduction. With BotF, it's arguable.

- I cannot understand the choice of not taking Boulder Roll 3 (especially over Stats). Seconds of stun are so precious, and not only for Hammer, but also for helping mates to flee and gank. +0,5 sec & +100 damages for 264 mana, definitely worth it imo. Same logic for Boulder Roll 2, even if you play against bad players, it can and will make the difference sometimes.

- I often see people criticizing God Strenght, saying Rook is slow, low attack speed etc. Don't forget this game rely heavily on AA and God Strenght is +50 Weapon Damage, which is huge comparing to items and other abilities of the same type (Oak's Soul Power for instance). It's a very good ability, not as much in this build than in mine but I would always choose God Strenght over Stats.

- In a word and imho, Stats are a bad choice except if you have nothing else to choose (see my topic -> https://forums.demigodthegame.com/364213 ). You should take God Strenght after level 15, even if it won't probably make any big difference at that point of the game. "If the game lasts long enough to justify stat boosts, you'll be swimming in mana" *hemhem* 3 levels of stats = +315 Mana & + 0,96 MPS, more kind of a sink rather than a swimming-pool ^^

Indeed never EVER takes stats in a serious game. Cept if there are really no other choices.

I'm beginning to see the effectiveness here, but I thinks budgies calculations are off;

With just arrows you get an extra unmitigated 60 dps, so say 40 dps but with the tower you get another 134 dps, so together 194 dps. THIS IS HUGE. Yes they wont fire all at the same target, but they are very powerfull and they cost no mana. Yes they are mitigated, but thats still around 120 dps. AND its ranged meaning you'll be able to attack a lot more than with auto attack.

Drop towers 4, or push it to later levels, those towers arent that usefull later on(although less mana is usefull, so maybe get them 11-12) and drop Boulder II. It only adds .5 seconds for more mana and it is not needed for a succesfull hammerslam. Get Arrows and ToL instead. You lose on an extra .5 sec stun and a little less mana for your towers, but you gain an immense amount of dps. 

That said, im gonna play this!

That is really the last thing to do. Boulder Roll 1 cannot assure you a succefull Slam. And skilled players can Shield/Grasp/Peni etc. a Slam after most Boulder Roll 1 hit, just after stun.

You can still slam under a Roll 1, but it is a lot harder, and definitely not sure fire. The .5 seconds is 33% longer stun, and yes it does make a large difference.

You will do significantly more Hammer damage over the course of the game with Roll 2 than Roll 1.  Roll 3 is less important, but still worth getting.