Moosetek13

what are you talking about?

name 4 'deep' sci fi shows with the action, humour and satisfaction for watching that SG gives you.

but seriously... what does 'deep' give you? hell, DEFINE deep in the first instance.

honestly, who wants to watch a story about 'flawed heroes', which is just spin talk for "losers-who-have-the-producers-on-their-side". i see enough losers in real life, i dont want my entertainment to be about the same schmucks.

honestly, all 4 team members of both SG series were good enough for me. they were humour, brains, ethical dilemmas and action all rolled into... um... 4... but nevertheless, it was INTERESTING! it was GRATIFYING! how DEEP do you need it to be? i much prefer the depth in SG as it was in SG1 and Atlantis, rather than something like District 9 (which, btw, PISSED ME OFF! because it was advertised as an action movie just to steal a few extra viewers so the director could spread his opinion a bit further...)

SG is a sci-fi action series. traditionally, it had action, humour, moral dilemmas, and high tech wizardry. all the right ingredients for a great sci fi series.

Universe is just an insult to SG tradition... in its own way its nice, and like i said a page ago, it has some potential, but ONLY if they move back to the more traditional SG stuff... i hate to sound like the guy who is afraid of the unknown, but i MUCH prefer old school SG to this new age drama crap.

BSG, B5, Firefly. ok, i only got 3. but i couldn't name 4 series' WORSE than SG either.

Rais Ima take that as you trying to be funny. SG1 was a great show, of course they had to change somethings that didnt match the movie, but the writers payed attention to their fan base and when they did something that tampered with the SG universe people didnt stand for it. Right now the Writers of SGU are pissing on the very values and concepts that made SG1 such a success. How many shows do you know that last longer then 5 seasons? SG1 was capable of going for 11 seasons, but they decided to call it quits for the sake of ending the series on a high note and not being cancelled mid season like sooo many good shows end up experiencing.

Errr ... when and how was BSG funny? *scratcheshead*

I'd say: B5, Firefly, ST:TNG

And yes, the number of seasons it ran does not equal it's entertainment value.

SG1 was certainly cool, and I like SGU better than what I've seen of Atlantis. I like the Star Trek franchise better than the Stargate franchise, generally, except for Enterprise, which all three of the Stargate series trump.

actually, he is correct, you have no idea what you are talking about. its like this review for Transformers 2 i saw, the guy was attacking every little thing, saying stuff like: oh, and at the begining of the movie, the autobots are murdering innocent decepticons, who are just sitting there minding their own business

except anyone with a brain knows the decepticons werent sitting there harmless, but were waiting to attack.

and if you remember the Tolan, the Asgard, the Knox, i think one or two others, they had tech surpassing the goauld, however, most of the galaxy had been enslaved by them, so the majority of the population lived in huts.

as for the mentioned Sci-Fi shows, BSG wasnt funny, and felt to me like the same stuff over and over, i got bored of watching it very quickly and only started watching it again when the real action started happening (end of the series)

i love firefly, i wish it hadnt been cancelled. however, i wouldnt call it deep, just more... idn, mature... than most people have patience for... which is too bad for them.

Babylon 5 was Star Trek with more fighting. dont remember it being funny or all that popular...

BUT, Stargate has it all, comedy, combat, sci fi stuff, moral issues. it had multiple and differing coherent story arcs interspersed with alot of single episodes which is good. im not saying other sci-fis dont do this, im just saying its why SG is good. Also, they have a good story with not bad writers.

but tell me how SGU is 'deep', as opposed to simply being annoying because the characters reflect people in rel life and not the heroes we want/are used to seeing

BSG did have it's funny moments. However, it wasn't the sort of show that beat you over the head with a gag because it felt that you were too stupid to put two and two together, and get four. Take into the context of the series. It's not exactly funny, but the characters do find moments of levity. Speaking of beating you over the head with a gag, I'm looking at you Warehouse Failteen!

Really, SGU is trying to be deep, when it shouldn't. Stargate isn't a deep show. To be sure, they had a few odd episodes here and there that somehow managed to break the mold, but really, it was a qunitessential action/adventure sci fi show made unique by engaging writing, characters, and plots. Stargate Universe has none of that. Whereas in SGA or SG1, I immediately took to the characters within minutes of their introduction, the SGU characters are flat, boring, and fail to ellicit any sort of response from me. The writing, well, fails. It's the standard Stargate writing, but without good characters to back it up, it falls flat.

Cadalancea

yeah, maybe if FILM really meant TELEVISION you might have a point. but alas, you're completely incorrect. thanks for playing though!

Babylon 5 had actually lot in common with Star Trek DS9, but it was more centered about the main story plot, DS9 had more episodic character...i would say both shows had some of the best characters (or actors?) in entire scifi genre (Sheridan, Garibaldi, Mollari, G´Kar in B5 and Sisko, Garak, Gul Dukat and O´Brien in DS9) and for me these shows are still the best scifi out there....

Huh, i mentioned him, i wouldnt dare to forget him ....really he was one of the best. It´s sad he is not around anymore

Agreed. I do not hold even the third deason in the highest regard except few episodes (Improbable Cause/ Die is Cast). But other four seasons were just fantastic.

Its just sad that the writers ran out of fresh ideas for the SG franchise and instead of just letting it rest, they had to renew it with a show that spits on the very founding aspects of a very good scifi show. Its even worse they pulled original characters like Gen. O'Neill and Colonel Carter into it. Richard Dean Anderson  might not of had much screen time but the fact they portrayed his character to be so cold hearted about something that would have any serviceman scratching their heads as to how could they help their comrades disturbes me. I know Gen. O'Neill can be alittle emotionally seperatated at times, but comrades lost in space and on the verge of dying isnt one of those times.