wwwolf123

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You seem to be unable to tell the difference between concession and rage quitting.

You might make more headway if you understand the topic you are posting about. Nice attempt at a rant, albeit ill informed.

Yea, I sympathize with this type of situation, and this would be fixed with the concession options.

And again, that's why the AI has no business being there in the first place.

Take it out of the equation, give the winners their rightly earned win, and get on with life.  It'll still suck when people quit but at least the people on the other team who stuck around don't get directly punished for it.

I think the real problem stems from the fact that everyone has to wait 30 seconds for the "rage quitter" to actually exit the game.  Personally thats what gets me pissed off.  It gets even better when 1 person quits then another quits 4 seconds later...you can't even get a line of text off before your greeted with the connection screen and have to wait another 30 seconds.

I completely agree that if you are getting raped over and over again that quitting may be acceptable...just get the actual "end game" option working properly so the game does not think someone is disconnecting due to lag/crash issues when they are actually quitting.  Hopefully the next patch takes care of this (notes said it should be fixed).

The more I think about it, the more I think that this is all a moot conversation. At least until the next patch comes along and we see where ending a game moves from there.

The only problem I have with people quitting early is a display of respect. When you click on that Multiplayer button, anyone who has ever played an online game should understand the "risk" they are taking. Will you get into a game with equally talented teammates? Will the other team be a punching bag every step of the way? Will you be the punching bag?

Who knows?

Either way, a person should be respectful and play through. Otherwise, consider playing a computer controlled character that you can set the difficulty to. That way you can rage quit to your hearts content when you're blasted away with little agitation to someone else that's willing to invest their time.

I don't quit often, but I do it sometimes. It's just painful to sit there and play when taking 2 steps beyond your towers = death. I'll say gg, you guys win, and leave.

People use the term RAAAAAAAAAAGEQUIT! because it makes them feel happy that they think they got the other player so frustrated they left.

Yes, there's a difference between ragequitting and conceding. I think ragequitting became a popular term around the time left 4 dead came out. All 4 survivors would make it to the end with full healthpacks, and an infected player, who hasn't even played survivor yet on the map, leaves. THATS ragequitting, when you leave before the game is obviously a loss.

you must be horrible at this game to want to play with shitty players

Meh.  I just had a game in which my mate mate was all "LULZ HEY GUIS HOW DOES I PLAYED DEMIGOD?" and proceeded to kamikazi into the enemy base, feed my opponents gold and exp and just generally be of little help.  I myself am also quite new so when I realised we were up against at least 1 experienced player I got the feeling that we were screwed.  My gut instinct was indeed correct but I stayed in the game against my better judgedment. 

I will never get those 35 minutes of my life back.  Staying in that game was the biggest waste of my time and what did I get out of it?  NOTHING.  Other than a seething hatred for players who don't even know what their skills do or have the common sense to try an offline skirmish before jumping into multiplayer.  I feel like such a mug, if I had quit when my instincts told me to I could of gotten another game in, instead of bashing my head against a brick wall for 30 minutes.

Well, here is my two cents:

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While I do agree that people often drop games before they are lost, you are being absolutely ridiculous if you insist that players remain in the game to the bitter end. Have you seen pro Starcraft games?
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The term ragequit is usually used when someone gets upset over the performance of his team, or his inability to deal with the enemy and quits due to anger. Noone said that people should ALWAYS stay until the bitter end, even though as you will see, most of the time they could just as well do that.

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Therefore; if I am playing against you, and your team is spanking my team, Warscore 10-5, you have 20 combined kills, and we have 1, I'm going to quit. This isn't 'rage-quitting'. This is acknowleding that you've already won; this is admission of defeat. Go ahead and comp-stomp for the favor.
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If that happens, you can be sure that there will be giants banging down your citadel in seconds anyway, so there really is no point in you quitting, as the game will be over in a few minutes. The only thing achieved by quitting are:
- a 30 second wait (/player) for the remaining players
- a loss of favor points for you
- an increase of your disconnects stat.
- a loss of reputation, unless ofc you excuse yourself in public chat before leaving.

What my problem is with people justifying ragequitting is that most of the ragequitters are stupid and have no sense of the game. They will quit after five minutes, when the enemy team gets a lucky few kills or even mid game, when they seem to be dominating and they die.

They feel right and justified by your type of posts even though they did the utterly stupid and gave up the fight before it was really over.

 
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All that being said, it's ridiculous when people quit 2 minutes into the game. There should be a negative favor hit for that, or some other form of penalty. You shouldn't quit because you were the first enemy kill; you shouldn't quit because you were stupid and fought inside the enemies towers.
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And yet they are singing the same stupid lines about how their noob opponent kamikazes into the enemy all the time, using the same lines as an excuse for their quit, as you just used.

To all the pro-ragequitters out there, let me quote two stories of mine:

Story 1: 3v3 game on leviathan. We were holding the flags most of the time, having a warscore advantage, but two of my teammates were pounded really badly by the enemy. In fact the enemy had a level advantage of about 3 or 4 on each one of us. I notice one of my teammates saying in ally chat:
TM - I'm going to leave.
Me - Why?
TM - We die too much.
Me - But we are winning (we werent at that time, but the game was far from being over as well)
TM - I dont think so.
Me - But we are.

He did stay. 5 minutes later we've reached warscore lvl10, upgraded to giants and won the game.
Me - That much for you leaving.
TM - Lol. I was stupid.

Let me quote that line okay?

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Lol. I was stupid.
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Story 2: In a 3v3 game tonight we were getting a beating. The enemy (a team of three assassin demigods) was owning us real bad. They did clear a way to our citadel and kept harassing us there. We were having a slight advantage in warscore due to us having the majority of the flags earlier in the game for a while, but generally speaking the warscores were close and the enemy did have a good 3-5 level lead on us. They used the money to buy items, so we were really screwed whenever we had to fight one of them. It seemed to be a losing fight and yet we have won. We did agree to save up money for giants, and when we got there, we made a desperate grab for the portal flags and locked them. The giants allowed us to retake the map, and by the time they managed to upgrade to giants as well, we've already caplocked one of their portals.

Now .. suffice to say, that the game was played with decent players, but a typical ragequitter would have left about half an hour earlier, when it did really look like we are done.

No.. i will not get over it, as ragequitting - as the name implies - has nothing to do with honor. Its simply a stupid act of rage motivated by selfishness and anger, completely ignoring the ill effects such a decision has for the teammates.

This is not Dota.

soon.