ITS NOT THOUGH. If you die, YOU SUCK. End of story.

If you die repeatedly by the same Demigod (player), your point is INVALID because usually the QQ comes from one game, and the same player controlling the "OP Demigod".  Its not the Demigod, its the player that needs to be nerfed. THE PLAYER DAMNIT!

Also, any of you saying one Demigod is OP over another, and i say this from the bottom of my heart (as black as it may be)

STOP. STOP CHASING HIM INTO HIS TOWERS. STOP!!!! I DON'T WANT ANOTHER BOGUS "oh, christ, this PLAYER keeps killing me with that demigod, it MUST be OP" TOPIC. STOP!!!!!!!

I don't think Demigod is unbalanced, but I think people who don't suck die occasionally.

What is that called in MMO's, Rez sickness?  Where if you get ganked after reviving, the player killing you receives 0 Exp and 0 Gold.  That is the only kind of system I could see being implemented... where a timer is put on you from the killing player, or some similiar kind of system.  Perhaps something more progressive... such as when a player kills you a 2nd time, they get less Exp and less gold from the kill... 3rd time, even less, 4th time, even less, and they will have to kill someone else to reset this in order to receive full Exp and Gold from killing that player again. *shrugs*

I think that there are abilities that are overpowered, but I don't think that the game is entirely unbalanced as a result.

Abilities

Mines: Mines is a bit much. Even if I can see them there is nothing that I can do about them. They can also be used as grenades which tends to result in some heavy damage before you can move out of blast zone. Create an arming time and/or allow for them to be destroyed (AOE or attack).

Tower of Light: I played a tower Rook last Pantheon, and the results were pretty impressive. On large maps the build isn't the most effective since a player can usually maneuver around the towers/Rook to capture flags; but on small maps the build is a bit much. The final level in the chain actually reduces the mana cost of the towers which only furthers the Rooks ability to push. A Rook inside his castle is pretty hard to beat. Yes, it can be countered, but I'm findign that the cost to coutner is greater than the cost to establish this "castle." I can sit there and try and burn them down, but the end result is that the Rook can easily put up more of them.

Spit: I don't think it is really overpowered, but it is a powerful ranged attack on a melee character. It shouldn't affect buildings, and the best counter is little costly. I think that the "cleansing" item should be reduced in cost... at least then the item would be useful (and not just versus spit).

Shamblers/Yetis: I feel that these are quite underpowered. They die when the master dies, and they die fairly easily and don't seem to provide much beyond cannon fodder. They just seem to pale when compared to Oak's/Erebus' minions, of which are provided much easier. I think that reducing the mana cost and allowing for a potential of 6 minions at the max rank would go a logn way to promoting more Minion based Sedna/QoT builds.

Compost: It's a little underpowered in my book. Having it give a slight boost to mana/health regeneration would be a nice boost for it.

Shatter: The damage needs to be increased or the mana cost needs to be decreased. It should be a main damage spell for an Ice TB, especially since its damage is based on the use of Frost Nova and Rain of Ice.

Mechanics

Immunity: With quick fingers a player of Oak or someone with an Orb of Defiance is capable of utilizing the Heart of Life without it having the possibility of being stopped for the duration of the immunity. I've been told this is possible, but I haven't seen it myself. It's one of those things that should probably be taken care of before we start to see major tournaments.

Stuns: An annoying mechanic in the game. I'd like a consumable to would automatically be used up when the player is stunned. It should cost 250 gold to prevent it from being used excessively.

Regeneration: I still think that mana/hp regeneration needs diminishing returns on stacking.

Though, no matter how much you item-boost a level 20 Unclean Beast, he can never take out a level 20 Sedna. Sedna is not able to die as level 20 with the right items. We even teamed up Torchearer and Unclean Beast against 2xNightmare AIs, Sedna and Rook. Rook got seriously pwned no matter what he did, which was also the point. We wanted to see what Sedna would do.

She ended up so invincible, that we could only win by holding her company with Torchbearer, and send Unclean Beast to detroy their base. We tried killing all of her minions first, ten DPS her. No go...she spawned the little guys again shortly after, and she had hardly taken any damage at all anyway.

BUT, at level 20 everyone should be going all out on the opponents base anyway, so I really don't see the problem

Chaosnaska:

Mostly it is players faults for thinking something is overpowered over something else. It's really early in the game still and no one has really found all the most effective counters to a lot of the extremely powerful skills or characters.

However, some skills are abit string it seems and Daikaze has some pretty good points.

Spit needs refinning, but I'm not sure how. Maybe if the damage was either decreased, or it couldn't attack buildings, or it took longer to inflict the same amout of damage. I play UB when I feel like going on a rampage and getting a Spit at the beginning and end of a fight usually means I win that fight.

Movement speed is great and may seem too powerful but you will sacrifice a lot of good buffs to get that +speed. Sometimes, I specifically do not get +speed items and focus only on +attack speed items to make those fast little DGs wish they hadn't chased me down. Also you can stack up some serious armor/HP/regen if you leave out the +speed items. And sometimes fighting a DG with 8k HP 20min into a game is really hard. Or with enough armor and regen that you are doing less than 50% damage to them. Atm, I think item buffs are fine as is.

Immunity, its a great feeling tossing a sheild on you or activiting an invincibility item to use Heart of Life and recharge everything in the middle of a fight. But it does seem a bit strong. Maybe making it take longer to recharge your hp and mana might work. Or maybe some new trick could be done, like damage is reduced 95% but dealt to your gold while immune.

Just keep in mind, that in the scope of the game its still early to call anything OP or UP. Because there may be some outlandish counter that someone will find in a few weeks that will completely own the OP stuff or buff the UP stuff.

Edit: why is some of my text blue?

Game is balanced better than any other strategy game I've seen, and definitely better than DotA. If you pick a certain DG there are going to be others that are OP against you. At the same time, depending on what DG you pick, you are going to be OP against some other DGs.

Every DG is the "BEST" DG under the right circumstances and against the right opponents, on the right map, etc.

Bad match ups are your fault - if put a team of three Erebus agaisnt Three Torchbearer then you will get screwed. You chose the teams, make sure they are right.

Thats like saying CnC Generals is unbalanced because three china's vs three USA will get utter raped.

EB - needs a tone down but not a major one.

QoT - shield either needs longer cd or put on 1 minute immunity on other players but herself. She also needs a small increase in damage in beginning stages. Shamblers could use an armor/HP buff in the first 2 ranks.

UB - Spit needs damgae toned down or range also a longer cd but each level will decrease the cd

Rag - Snipe should be 3 times the range or 2 times the range of base attack range

Sedna - i think they need ti up the first 2 levels of yetis base armor or HP. other then that this class is fine

TB - is fine the way he is

Oak - IMO his ashield should not give health on the 2nd to last level. other then that he is fine

Rook - towers should not take cital upgrades at all. Needs a slight HP/armor buff