Let me see:

GC2: retail version without any copy protection. Activation since update V1.1.

Sins of a Solar Empire: retail version witout any copy protection. Downloadable patch (without any activation) available until v1.05. Later patch availble only with Impulse

Demigod: retail version without any copy protection. Patch available only with Impulse, even the 0-day patch.

So it is the same as always concerning retail version: no copy protection. The patching method has changed: Impulse only. And there is DRM on the patched version: activation required when using Impulse anywhere for installing latest version on an offline computer

This thread is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this forum.

These people talk about DRM like its terrorism or a plague coming to wipe us all off the face of the planet, its just a protocol for protecting games from piracy that in a few instances has been taken to an extreme that impedes on the customers enjoyment.

As for Stardock and Demigod, considering the game got the !%@$ pirated out of it and its possible to play without even entering a cd key (paid for boxed copy and downloaded via stardock) I don't think its really an issue here?

If it was done privately, who would I laugh at?

I wonder if they even know what DRM stands for...

I mean really.

Shucks... I'm too tired... Let me record myself laughing so I can loop it for a week.

You are 12 kid.

We DID. we ASKED. We got NO REPLY, we removed them from the DRM free section.

I have to point one thing my mates didn´t do. Even knowing Demigod was totally DRM free, if I ask about GOO and Stardock´s next intentions would be to use it. I would have removed Stardocks from the list either way.

We screwed up on the communication? aside from the fanboys like you, no one stands that opinion. See Quixal point 2 for example.

However, we´ll keep the fences just with Mr. Brad, because the company is behaving with gamers.

It is Stardock a good company? Yes.

It is Stardock´s CEO´s behaviour inflamatory  an a$$holing? Yes

^^ This.

So, rather than comment on the actual post, you pull one word in my post without addressing any of the rest of the post.  You then in fact fail to address the issue behind it.  You then fail at general reading comprehension, and in turn accuse me of being significantly younger than I am (not that 12 is necesarily an insult, I've seen plenty of 12 year olds articulate concepts and complaints better than you...actually, my fiancee's four year old brother has a better grasp on understanding and articulating arguments than you do).  But, again, my age has nothing to do with any of the issues in question, and I can only perceive the remark as an attempt to insult me.

Congratulations, you represent your site admirably.

And you did screw up your communication--royally in fact.  That has nothing to do with whether or not you feel like throwing a loaded terms into the mix.  If you honestly believe that a PM is a good faith attempt at communication with a CEO of a company that is in the midst of several projects, do everyone on the net a favor and remove your website.  If you can't be bothered to do even the most basic of fact checking prior to posting something that could very well be considered libel, you shouldn't be posting your "information" at all.

Additionally, this has nothing to do with being a fanboy.  It has nothing to do with your loaded terms, insults, and innuendo.  Your site was called out for its hypocrisy, and its false and (IMO) libelous statements--statements that were a direct result of your website's failure to do even the most simple fact checking.  You failed at making a good-faith attempt to contact the company in question, or even apparently to try the game yourselves, and you (personally) have failed to understand this in your rants.

While it is apparent that some staff seems to be making amends, your defense of the obviously failed research policy of RYG and your attacks upon anyone who rightly questions your (lack of) methedology brings into question the validity of your website.  After all, if you failed at such a basic fact check as this, what else is your site wrong on?

Unfortunately that's not how contacting someone works. If you try to contact someone to get information, you do not get to make up whatever you want if they don't reply. You try atleast one other venue of communication - SOP is "if the recipient does not reply, assume he did not get the message".

PS.: Please remove "Reclaim Your Game" from the DRM-Free list - it requires authentication in order to be used.

Edit:

From the RYG site:

Hipocrisy thy name is RYG.

I guess the 12 idiocy extends like the swine flu.

You have to register in almost every forum to post. I can set a board so guests, moron, idiots and fanboys can post but I´m not doing it. Besides, it isn´t too hard to make a fake mail and fill false data

Frogboy wrote :

I would happily respond there but their site requires me to create a Prism forum account (UserID and password) to logon to make posts and I just can’t abide by such anti-consumer DRM…

This in a idiot sentence, period. A DRM is a form of encrypted application used in games that invades the computer´s use(RING0 process, STEAM data minings, etc). This doesn´t happen when you log in into a forum.

This points are obvious, but I post here so the teenagers who doesn´t want to be muffinheads (like some posters here) learn to be adult humans.

  xXAequitasXx let´s say I accept the PM is not enough for the recipient to the message. He failed too at making the good-faith attempt to reach us. 2 wrongs doesn´t make a right, period.

By The Way. Kath has mailed Brad´s secretary, and we are still waiting for an answer.

Now I hope your testoterone burns while you flame me, I don´t expect too much mature behaviour here. I´m used to it. I fight against Securom.

Don´t be late at college

Blade

You participate in running an anti-DRM site and you have no idea what DRM is.

You, sir, are a fucking moron.

DRM does not have to be invasive to be classified as DRM. Your registration is in every sense of the word DRM because it limits access to your website, in order to protect the website's content. Also, in case you didn't fucking get it yet, your website registration is ALSO ENCRYPTED and while you will of course continously claim that it isn't malicious in any way, we have no fucking idea what information you are saving about the visitor or how that information is used.

You are in every way as idiotic as you think Brad's comment is. Noone on this forum should be surprised, having read your previous posts.

PS. ARE YOU 9 YEARS OLD OR WHAT?!?!?

It only takes far less time to enter a CD-Key.  It's good to know that you have a vigorous screening proccess, that as you mentioned, is entirely worthless and ineffective.  You're only inconveniencing legitimate forum users with your draconian protection racket, you monster!

You help run a DRM website, and you don't even know the definition thereof.  You then try and explain how your posts will enlighten us on becoming adult human beings.  Has your hypcorisy no bounds, sir?

Well, it's great that you've finally come to realize that you never attempted a good-faith effort to get in contact with the subject of your research.  Now apologize.

Additionally, if you are conducting research on something/someone, it is NOT the subject's responsibility to contact YOU, it is YOUR responsibility to contact the party involved.  Again, if you want your website to be taken at least half-way serious, instead of a forum joke, do your work!

Says the man who has an unnatural fixation with 12 year olds.  Freudian slip mayhap?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Sblade1.

But Mom, mayhap you should keep a closer reign on certain representatives of your website.  Because, as we all know, the best way to get your point across is to attack the resident board's members.

First, I'm glad (even if it's hidden away) that you acknowledge that this is YOUR opinion.  There's a huge difference between SecuROM, Starforce, Steam, Impulse/Stardock Central, CD-Key Checks, etc., etc.; the world does not exist in black and white, there are shades of gray when it comes to DRM--something even supported unofficially by your forum members/administrators (why else would you have forum registration?).

The question is why, I as a consumer, would listen to anything a minor, near paranoid website run by people who apparently cant do even the most basic fact checking, would have to say on such an important matter.  The idea of black and white, good and bad, propped and promoted by your website is nothing short of doing consumers a MAJOR disservice, especially coupled with your lack of journalistic integrity (yes, we'll go there since that's where you and several of RYG's members seem to be implying their website is a part of--providing information for the masses).

Of course it doesn't hurt to respond to questions.  However, in regards to Stardock's games (internal and published), they've already provided the DRM related answers.  Couple that with not even recieving questions from RYG (again, RYG's responsibility, RYG's fault, and RYG's failure when they posted false information regardless), and the debate on whether even RYG is an appropriate venue (rather than say, their official website), and I'd say SD has already done more than enough on this front.

The world does not exist in black and white.  There are shades of gray.  DRM is no exception to this rule.  Yet RYG still maintains its highly convoluted, and frankly, hypocritical, position that all DRM is bad.  Your statement on "good companies" and "bad companies"--a completely subjective, and frankly naieve, statement, that places RYG on forum soapbox status rather than anything even remotely approaching a useful resource for those actually interested in DRM--is just further evidence that RYG lacks any and all journalistic integrity and is nothing but a soapbox for a combination of pirates, paranoids, and certain monochromatic, journalistic-wannabes who feel that their particular viewpoint on a matter is the only valid one, and research and objectivity be damned.

And remember, when your point has been disputed, the best way to deal with it is to clap your hands around your ears, and start screaming: boycott! boycott! boycott!  Threats and innuendos are something you folks at RYG really do seem to enjoy-- first Skyblade, and now you.

EDIT: Minor cleanup.