MaRiO-

I'd love to see SupCom overlays for the paths of units (Hold Shift and you can see the path).

Being able to drag them where you like would be pretty amazing. Dunno how it would work in practice though.

If you are able to at least control the creeps you get from the flag portals it would actually give a reason for you to capture these in the first place.

I do like the idea of being able to bend the paths to take other routes, like choosing all creeps to go on direction...but picking who gets to make the choice? I don't know. I wouldnt be against everyone being able to, but would...cause conflicts in public games (would kick for coodinated teams though)

Would just be nice if you captured a neutral portal to be able to guide the grunts to merge with those from your base.

Edit: To agree with Vivi, I dont want individual control. I just think it would be nice to move the routes around. You could actually out-maneuver someone or have a LARGE push. It would also help with the problems people have of not being able to deny exp.
It would also make games a LOT less repeditive to not see creeps running the same path endlessly.

Sorry, I haven't played enough to know how the generals work, but my thought is that the generals could have an ability where they drop a rally point, or place a rally point.  The rally point might not work well, different levels of ability, like it might only attract 20% of the creeps at first level.  Plus, if other generals on your team dropped rally points, they might redirect some creeps, split the waves, whatever.  Or you could drop multiple rally points, and they would have some partial attraction to the creeps, guiding some of them down certain lanes.

Thoughts?

I Thought about it and I really thing it would help the gameplay a lot.

I came up with this for my idea...

Ok.
Red - Rallypoints
Blue - Team Grunts
Orange - Neutral Grunts
Yellow - End Points

I think you team should be able to drag the corners of these paths to other rallypoints. It should take effect the NEXT grunt wave.

Which would allow you to swap where they all go VERY easily. You have to end at the citidel obviously. And you have to have paths TO the rallypoints.
Hell, you could even do this...

Obviously only 1 team to prevent confusion...but you see what I mean.

And like I said before, I think it should use the SupCom move command look.
You know, this.

What do you think?

Apologies if the pictures are too big. If its too bad I'll make em links.

Edit: I just used Z because it's really easy to use as an example

I don't agree with the idea, the creep lanes are well implemented to make u have to push where you want to attack.

For instance in the 5v5 map or the 4x4 u can attack from the sides and do some nice damage, u just need to control the portal and help the creeps push a bit from that side. Once you have plenty of towers destroyed you can change from where you are attacking pretty quickly. I think that part (the lanes) is good as it is, as long as they keep implementing maps right.

Edit: And about the generals, they are pretty strong if well played, 12 creatures to control is enough in my opinion.

Maybe you shouldnt be able to control your main creeps and only the flag portals you get. I think thats more fair.

O just got an idea

or maybe you can implement this into the citadel upgrades and make it allow you to alter the paths and the extend be based on how many upgrades you have on it.
Maybe on the first upgrade you can alter only 1 rally point 2nd upgrade 2 etc.

I like that idea

I dream of this being put in now. I really think this would add a lot of depth. Great idea Mario.

I mean, one of the first things people I show the game to ask is can you interact with the grunts at all. I would actually be able to answer yes!

I understand it completly:D.

But I do not agree. The problem is pathfinding, this will bug the shit out of this game. Also I'd say the effort is not enough for the gain.

Mario and Teseer, can you explain the citadel upgrade idea a bit further?  I'm not sure I understand how it would work ingame.

This is different from commanding your troops like an RTS.  The creeps are still, for the most part, uncontrollable critters that run around and fight for you.  They still act as an endless stalemate that waits to be broken by the Demigods.  This isn't a full RTS style control scheme, but some amount of control would be most welcome.  I like the idea of preset waypoints that you can change between.

I don't like the idea of them being tied to a Citadel upgrade.  I think you should be able to change them anywhere from the beggining.  I think it would throw a chaotic, fun, and most importantly tactical spin on the current early game.

I disagree that only generals should be able to do this.  Having a General would become a necessity.  Random community games would be disasterous if one team was only Assassins, and 1v1 Assassin vs. General would be decidedly in favor of the General.  Or Generals would have to be very weak to compensate, and thus all competitive 5v5 teams would be 4 Assassins and 1 General.

Instead of just generals, I think that one person would have to be the "creep manager" for each flag.  Here's what I propose.  In the lobby, you put an option that basically says if you want to be a creep manager or not.  If you check it, then you are telling the game that you want to command the creeps.  The starting portals are then randomly divvied up between the creep managers.  If there are no creep managers, then the starting portals are just randomly divvied up.  If you capture a portal flag, then you become the creep manager for that flag.  It would also be critical that you would be able to give your creep manager title for a specific flag to another player.

Er, it's not much of a stalemate if you can route them around the enemy forces, now is it?