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Post Upgrade Windows 10 Insider Builds

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By RedneckDude on September 2, 2015 1:20:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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Guys, I just learned something the hard way that some of you may have already known. Because of it, I will be doing a factory reset on my laptop back to Windows 8.1 from Windows 10.

 

Here's what happened:

I upgraded my brand new Dell laptop to Windows 10. Then, stupidly, I chose the option in Windows Updates Advanced Options to opt in to Insider Builds.

 

Mistake. It "upgraded" me to Insider build 10532 which put a watermark on my screen, and what's worse, when I run winver, I am told that my OS will expire 7/15/2016.

 

So, I try to opt out of Insider Builds and can't, not without starting over, which I will do.

 

This is unacceptable.

 

Just a heads up for those who may be unaware. I'd prefer not to have an expiration date on my "supposedly" free upgraded OS. Let alone a watermark.

 

All the while the Win10 install is fully activated, BTW.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jafo
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September 2, 2015 1:39:21 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

All betas have an expiry date.  That's normal.  You 'should' still be able to 'upgrade' to the normal RTM version....though that might need to be a full install...

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September 2, 2015 1:48:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I read that I could do that, Paul. But I'd lose all my installed programs, same if I do a factory reset.

 

I'm thinking of trying to blow in a backup of Windows 8.1, then MAYBE, upgrade that to Win10, thereby keeping my installed programs.

 

That said, I guess I wasn't thinking of Insider Builds as betas. Which is why I said "I stupidly" chose to opt in.

 

Of course I could easily remove the watermark with each subsequent build, but that's a PITA.

 

I believe I'd rather just have the release version, at least on my laptop, and get my updates the slow and easy way. I don't like the idea that my OS could expire.

 

I'm sure that each subsequent "beta" would further extend the expiry date, but at what point would it become a release version again?

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September 3, 2015 12:48:45 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Ok, just because I know that this entire forum is on pins and needles, I thought I'd post the results.

 

I ended up doing a fresh install of Windows 10 and I WILL NOT opt in for Insider Builds.

 

All is well in RedneckVille.

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September 3, 2015 12:50:24 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Oh, I might add that during this process, I have found one more reason to love Stardock.

 

More here:

 

http://forums.wincustomize.com/471072/page/1/ 

 

News at 11.

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September 3, 2015 1:17:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

On an unrelated site [it's for FSX] I did mention there was absolutely no reason on God's earth to be an early adopter of Win 10 ....certainly not just because 'it's available'.

It's eventually going to cost you...but NOT for almost a year...so in 10 -11 MONTHS time it's still a free update...so leave it to 'OTHER suckers' to live through the angst of failure/fault/issue and just WAIT.

There's almost half a chance that by that time the OS won't still be kicking people randomly in the balls....

 

[probably will have the kicking down to a fine art by then] ....

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September 3, 2015 1:22:25 AM from Ashes of the Singularity Forums Ashes of the Singularity Forums

Quoting Jafo,
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On an unrelated site [it's for FSX] I did mention there was absolutely no reason on God's earth to be an early adopter of Win 10 ....certainly not just because 'it's available'.

It's eventually going to cost you...but NOT for almost a year...so in 10 -11 MONTHS time it's still a free update...so leave it to 'OTHER suckers' to live through the angst of failure/fault/issue and just WAIT.

There's almost half a chance that by that time the OS won't still be kicking people randomly in the balls....
[probably will have the kicking down to a fine art by then] ....

What about DX12? Some people think that it's worth it to be able to use that stuff (I'd rather not risk it, myself).

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September 3, 2015 2:24:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting HateDread,
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What about DX12? Some people think that it's worth it to be able to use that stuff (I'd rather not risk it, myself).
 
When there are [eventually] Games utilizing DX12 then there's a reason...but even that isn't entirely 'now' ..... yet....
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September 3, 2015 2:38:06 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I upgraded and I'm with Jafo, there's no good reason to upgrade at this point. 

And I know everyone's hating on win10 for all kinds of legit reasons, but I don't think this thread has one of them. I mean...

Quoting ,
quoting post

 Then, stupidly, I chose the option in Windows Updates Advanced Options to opt in to Insider Builds.

silly reason to post a thread.

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September 3, 2015 3:40:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
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Quoting , quoting post Then, stupidly, I chose the option in Windows Updates Advanced Options to opt in to Insider Builds.
silly reason to post a thread.

Well, I must say it took me by surprise. I don't think it's silly at all. Others might be taken by surprise as well.

Quoting Jafo,
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It's eventually going to cost you...but NOT for almost a year...so in 10 -11 MONTHS time it's still a free update...so leave it to 'OTHER suckers' to live through the angst of failure/fault/issue and just WAIT.

Am I missing something? Are you saying that in 10-11 months I will have to pay? I'm confused, (suprised?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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September 3, 2015 4:16:03 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
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Am I missing something? Are you saying that in 10-11 months I will have to pay? I'm confused, (suprised?).

The free upgrade is only available for 12 months.  If you upgrade later than that there's a fee...just as normal.

It's MS's way to 'push' people away from the older OS vers....sooner rather than later.

If it had been a paid-for upgrade from day 1 far fewer people would now be using 10 ...

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September 3, 2015 5:51:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Like I said before......no hurry. What I have works. Win 10 comes along preinstalled on a brand new machine...when I'm ready. Besides...with my luck I upgrade and my machine self destructs.

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September 3, 2015 9:11:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
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I don't think it's silly at all.

I don't either.  I like tips and tricks and warnings.  Thanks for the post.

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September 3, 2015 10:11:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I dunno, every day I read/hear something to put me off upgrading to 10, and this is yet another example that says it is under-developed and not yet ready for use.

As I understood it when I joined the Insider Program, early updates would still be delivered to members after the RTM, yet this is saying otherwise, and that RTMs are being downgraded to trial/beta versions when opting in.  That's crap!

Quoting Jafo,
reply 10

The free upgrade is only available for 12 months

I don't care how free it is, things will need to improve considerably if I am ever to become a 10 user.... and if that hasn't happened before the 12 months is up,  then I never become a 10 user.

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September 3, 2015 1:11:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
reply 10

Quoting RedneckDude,
reply 9

Am I missing something? Are you saying that in 10-11 months I will have to pay? I'm confused, (suprised?).



The free upgrade is only available for 12 months.  If you upgrade later than that there's a fee...just as normal.

It's MS's way to 'push' people away from the older OS vers....sooner rather than later.

If it had been a paid-for upgrade from day 1 far fewer people would now be using 10 ...

 

Ah, ok. But if you upgrade in the first year, it remains free ongoing then. I gets cornfuzed sometimes. Especially after a few pints.....  

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September 3, 2015 10:13:16 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
reply 14

I gets cornfuzed sometimes. Especially after a few pints.....

I don't need a few pints!  I only have to turn around 360 degrees and I'm confused.

Then there was the time I felt a bit unwell while we were repairing a fairground roundabout... and my boss told me to go sit in the corner.

When it comes to Win 10, though, you wouldn't be the only person who's confused.... which isn't at all surprising when you look at the way MS has worded some of its information regarding the OS.  Some of it is ambiguous at best.... and the rest is legalese that'd confuse most users.

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September 4, 2015 5:42:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't need that stuff to be confused, I was born confused.

*backs out of room very fast*

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