Frogboy

Yes, please. No more teases, though!

If you like 4x games you'd probably like Fe:legendary heroes.

whst we would do with a wom remake is start it after the third elemental game is done and creste wom as a branch in that tree. It wouldn't be a major game project. More like a stand alone DLC level thing for players who wanted to see what awOM was supposed to be like.m what shipped, and even 1.4 is not even close to what was originally designed.

I think the only thing that would seriously make me look at EWOM again would be using memory in a different way. I remember you (or Derek) posting awhile ago that we could have either really cool looking units with particle effects or land that changes based on faction. You chose cool looking units. I would love the idea of a land that changes instead based on faction and season. I remember HF's mod would spawn Arctic for the Ice Golems and stuff. I imagined trees for Elves, that sort of thing. That I would really really dig, especially if it changed based on season (like Lord of the Realms II did back in the day).

 Although a remastered edition is technically buying the same game twice. I personally would let that slide because I, like many ewom owners, got FE and/or LH for free because of the problems with E:WOM.  Also, if you buy it now it's only 4.49 on Amazon. Considering Stardock kept their promise they could ask me to pay for a remake and it would not bother me in the slightest. 

Tend to side with Heavenfall on this.  WoM opened the door to the franchise, but isn't really worth going back to.  While the Dynasty system was interesting, it also had a lot of major flaws (IMHO) that I'm not sure could be resolved with a remake or touchups.

I miss the dynasty aspect. However, to be honest, I have difficulty differentiating the three games. I see them all as one game that has gone though some upgrades. The facts that visually they are hard to distinguish doesn't help and many of the differences in game play are reasonable subtle or at least not glaring. 

I would love to see more games like that but then I would expect them to be significantly different from what has come before. So I vote yes I would like to see director cut for WOM but I would like to see it come back as obviously different game as they others.

It sounds interesting, I guess if it's based off the latest releases I'd buy it. I also trust Derek to do good with it.

Hi,

My opinion is that I would like a new stardock 4X game in a medfan setting, with dinasty like you said.

But I also want to have something fresh and new. While I like Fallen Enchantress, I think I want a new lore, world.

I think also for Stardock the company, it would be better to come with something branded new and not something that press would consider as a next iteration of Elemental.

Anyway, I'll give an eye to anything new from Stardock.

E:WoM had some cool systems in it. I was particularly fond of dynasties and the concept of researching spells. I would say if everyone (who would be working on it anyways) is passionate about it, go for it. However, it would probably be a lot of grueling work to sift through all the gameplay and distill out what needed to be in it.

My dream game doesn't exist yet. So if instead you want to make a game where you exist as an individual in an extremely low magic world where nations are already established and you must vie for control or immortality in an environment where magic is frowned upon or even feared while magic has a much broader range from subtle to fantastic but is difficult to find and difficult to learn and master but gives you much greater control over how you cast your spells in order to manage the risk involved, be my guest! /RunOnSentence

The only possible explanation for your post is that you missed the part where Frog said "It wouldn't be a major game project. More like a stand alone DLC level thing for players who wanted to see what awOM was supposed to be like.m what shipped".

Again, how anyone could say no to this^ is beyond my comprehension.

Maybe it's my old memory or just wishful thinking, but I think most are thinking mostly of the problems and dynasty part of WoM, and not the most intriguing part -- essence.  LH is a great game but it's pretty much the standard 4X Civ4-but-with-magic game.  WoM had the potential to be very different.  Consider the typical 4x game -- eXpansion is a big part.  Settle cities, grow huge, win.  WoM had another possible strategy -- grow powerful while staying small.

Essence could be used to:

-found cities

-imbue champions with spellcasting

-power spells

So, one game could be a typical 4X game -- expand by making lots of cities and having cities create units, collect resources, etc.  Another game could be gathering a number of powerful spell-casting champions.  Another game could be hoarding essence and having a very powerful Sov casting very powerful spells across the board from her/his capital.

What games offer that sort of choice?

In LH essence is pretty blah, comparably.  It's a function of city site.  There are choices -- which city spell to cast -- but that choice would exist in a WoM game (as described above) too, plus much greater choices.

If WoM2 is just going to be a patched up WoM with dynasty slapped on (or rather turned on as parts of the dynasty code are still in LH) then it'd be better to just do a DLC dynasty for LH.

Plus there's the 'revitalize the land' thing.  Why is there 'green' and 'dark' land in LH?  It's merely cosmetic, and has no effect on the game.  It's a holdover.  It's pretty graphics that was kept because it's pretty and it took a lot of skill/effort and removing it was too much work (IMO), but it's just eye candy that makes no in-game sense.  It's a lost opportunity to differentiate Empires and Kingdoms.  It deserves better.

Can't say I would be particularly excited to see a WoM remake, even with new bells and whistles.  I'd much rather see E:FE:LH: etc. continue to evolve on its own trajectory.

yes! Please! I liked the having kids/marrying them off aspect. Done now, with the improved AI/relations from LH, that would be awesome.