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January 8, 2011 10:23:22 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Truth is I always preferred socialism to capitalism. True communism is supposed to be a a system of society that is the opposite of capitalism. In fact communism is similar to the type of system that Morph ideals. A system without money and where all resources are controlled by the state.

This has been corrupted by the so called Communists of these days. Infact most communists are really monarchies under a new false name.

My country was once socialist, so i kinda like that system.

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January 8, 2011 10:40:05 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Altaux,
Truth is I always preferred socialism to capitalism. True communism is supposed to be a a system of society that is the opposite of capitalism.

.....

This is like comparing apples to oranges, and melons to grapes. They are all fruits, and they will all go bad if you dont consume or dispose of them soon enough.

Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism, its all the same thing, slightly altered. They are all, basically CORRUPT

 


 

 

Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism = Moneytarism. 1 system to rule them all. But different names, to confuse and give false hope to the masses.

 

Quoting Altaux,
In fact communism is similar to the type of system that Morph ideals. A system without money and where all resources are controlled by the state.

No, not really. Not by a long shot

I never said I support any kind of system or society that makes use of any form of currency (money), and that there is any form of true power or elitism (state, government) in it.

So, true communism, is NOT even similar to what I 'ideal', like you say. Not even close.

Moneytarism is the best form of slavery that man has ever created, and is working brilliantly on a mass scale so far.

.......

I would only like to be alive when the big change, and the beginning of the civilized age will come, but that wont happen until many decades from now, so I doubt I will ever see it.

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January 9, 2011 3:57:45 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

In a way, Morph's idea is like Anarchism, from where I see it. Not as in, it's complete chaos, but in that there's no authority figure, everyone is equal, like the "political" idea (in quotation marks because there wouldn't be a Government, though it depends on the level of Anarchy wanted).

Of course, I can see an Anarchist society quickly reverting to "normal," because somebody will find something that somebody else can't have, and so will be in an elevated position, at least in the eyes of the person who doesn't have the aforementioned thing.

Meh, all these complicated thoughts... M head might explode!

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January 9, 2011 6:26:14 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism = Moneytarism. 1 system to rule them all. But different names, to confuse and give false hope to the masses.

wrong.

this is what TRUE communism is supposed to be

Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate

when i said state i meant the people.

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January 9, 2011 6:28:28 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Communism is exactly what you want morph. You want a true communist state, not the monarchist communism that most people think communism is. I on the otherhand think true communism is impossible. So socialism is better

A socialist society is characterised by a free association, which is not based on wage labour. It is organized on the basis of relatively equal power relations, self-management, collective decision-making and adhocracy rather than hierarchical, bureaucratic forms of organization in the economic and political systems.

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January 9, 2011 6:29:33 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

No, not really. Not by a long shot

I never said I support any kind of system or society that makes use of any form of currency (money), and that there is any form of true power or elitism (state, government) in it.

communism

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January 9, 2011 9:27:09 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I swear to God, sometimes it feels as if I talk to a wall, not actual people

Sigh.....

Quoting Oatesy03,
In a way, Morph's idea is like Anarchism, from where I see it. Not as in, it's complete chaos, but in that there's no authority figure, everyone is equal, like the "political" idea (in quotation marks because there wouldn't be a Government, though it depends on the level of Anarchy wanted).

First of all, it is not Anarchism. Anarchism = complete chaos, there are no rules, but there is also nothing in harmony thus there is still conflict, and everyone does whatever the hell they want.

Quoting Oatesy03,
Of course, I can see an Anarchist society quickly reverting to "normal," because somebody will find something that somebody else can't have, and so will be in an elevated position, at least in the eyes of the person who doesn't have the aforementioned thing.

Meh, all these complicated thoughts... M head might explode!

Secondly, true Anarchism can never exist, because then we would all kill each other. Ok, it can exist, but not for long

Quoting Altaux,
this is what TRUE communism is supposed to be

Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate

when i said state i meant the people.

First of all, true communism can never exist. True communism is fake, a scam, a way of saying to people: "Look, this is the best society we can ever achieve, and the only one that treats all people equally."

Secondly, this cannot be achieved in practice, because it only takes into consideration materialistic basic goods and needs, and it does not address any of the society's actual problems. Also, it doesnt take into regard the Earth's resources, and its caring capacity. In short, it doesnt offer any real solutions, it is a very generalistic idea/notion, and one might interpret Communism in their own way, while another person might interpret it a completely different way.

Moreover, you have absolutely no clue what society I am talking about, so I suggest that you should wait a while before you decide that what I'm talking about is Communism.

Lastly, if you want to name a resource-based society, "Communism", then by all means, do so. But that would be kind of wrong, because it would be like calling a dog, "wolf".

Quoting Altaux,
Communism is exactly what you want morph.

Nope, not really.

Quoting Altaux,
I on the otherhand think true communism is impossible.

Thats the only correct assumption you've made so far.

Quoting Altaux,
So socialism is better

A socialist society is characterised by a free association, which is not based on wage labour. It is organized on the basis of relatively equal power relations, self-management, collective decision-making and adhocracy rather than hierarchical, bureaucratic forms of organization in the economic and political systems.

Comparing apples to oranges is nice. In short, Oranges win

Quoting Altaux,
communism

Believe whatever you want, mate

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January 9, 2011 9:40:58 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I have tried a few times in the past, (in this Chatroom), to give you people an idea of what a resource-based system could be, but I failed miserably.

Partly because it is quite difficult for people to understand and accept something new, something that it is out of the box, and partly because I cant quite describe it with words, my post would fill whole pages, and still, it would just be an example.

If anybody wants to find out what a true resource-based society could be, then you can take as an example the Venus Project, which addresses most of our current society's problems we are facing today.

But still, watching videos, and going to seminars, is not enough. The change must come into your own mind, otherwise its all a waste of time. It is not faith, it is not a belief, it is not an idea. It is only simple and common logic.

What is happening now is only Prologue of what is to come in the near future. If we as a species do not change soon enough, we are going to be extinct.

And no, I do not to pretend to be a doomsdayer, or a prophet. I am also not 100% sure of what I say and believe.

Lastly, I dont want to advertise websites and tell you to go to www.something.com, because that would seem like I am trying to convince you to believe what I do, and pass on to you my ideas, which I am not.


P.S. LOL, I just checked and something.com does exist, oh well

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January 9, 2011 9:47:48 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I think you've just highlighted the key problem in your theory. Not everybody understands it.

Also, I said like anarchism in that there are no authority figures. Nobody is better than anybody else.

Finally, I was referring to the political concept of Anarchism, not the state of chaos, but the political ideal (as I stated). From what I know, the overall concept is that everyone is equal, with nobody having authority over another person. Of course, as you said, it wouldn't work, because there's always someone who wants to be more equal than the others.

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January 9, 2011 9:56:42 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Oatesy03,
I think you've just highlighted the key problem in your theory. Not everybody understands it.

It is not a theory. It is common sense.

 

I'd like to see what will happen when the earth cannot sustain us anymore, and becomes an inhospitable environment for any human being. But I will probably wont live that long.

At least, you can understand that if we dont change as a species, we are going to be extinct. No? You cant understand that?

Oh well

Quoting Oatesy03,
Finally, I was referring to the political concept of Anarchism, not the state of chaos, but the political ideal (as I stated). From what I know, the overall concept is that everyone is equal, with nobody having authority over another person. Of course, as you said, it wouldn't work, because there's always someone who wants to be more equal than the others.

If you are trying to find similarities, then congratulations, you have found one

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January 9, 2011 10:34:36 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

At least, you can understand that if we dont change as a species, we are going to be extinct. No? You cant understand that?

Well obviously I understand that. The goal is clear. However, it is the method which eludes me. How would you achieve this utopia?

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January 9, 2011 11:44:21 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Oatesy03,
Well obviously I understand that. The goal is clear. However, it is the method which eludes me. How would you achieve this utopia?

We cant. We can never achieve perfection.

But we CAN have something that is a lot better than what we already have now.

Do you want me to explain each and every little detail about a system similar to the Venus Project (resource-based)?

It may take quite a while though

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January 9, 2011 1:33:24 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

The Limey Man is not affected by mortal matters such as time. Carry on.

 

 

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January 9, 2011 2:04:10 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Limey Man must be a very favored servant of the God-Emperor of Man then.

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January 9, 2011 3:03:15 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

He is, after all, Limey Space Marine, most trusted of the Adeptus Custodes, and one of the few beings in the Imperium to know the most little-known secret of the High Lords of Terra.

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January 9, 2011 6:05:36 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

irst of all, true communism can never exist. True communism is fake, a scam, a way of saying to people: "Look, this is the best society we can ever achieve, and the only one that treats all people equally."

Secondly, this cannot be achieved in practice, because it only takes into consideration materialistic basic goods and needs, and it does not address any of the society's actual problems. Also, it doesnt take into regard the Earth's resources, and its caring capacity. In short, it doesnt offer any real solutions, it is a very generalistic idea/notion, and one might interpret Communism in their own way, while another person might interpret it a completely different way.

Moreover, you have absolutely no clue what society I am talking about, so I suggest that you should wait a while before you decide that what I'm talking about is Communism.

Lastly, if you want to name a resource-based society, "Communism", then by all means, do so. But that would be kind of wrong, because it would be like calling a dog, "wolf".

wow morph calm down

all i was saying is that if you look at all things your ideal society contains, and you look at the definition of a communist state the two look similar. If they are not the same that is understandable, but you must admit they look similar.

But like limeyman i do not understand how you would implement such a thing.

Anyway sorry if I offended you by calling your ideal system communism, but the two are very similar.

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January 9, 2011 8:38:49 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Oatesy03,
The Limey Man is not affected by mortal matters such as time. Carry on.

Fine, I like wasting my time until my food gets delivered

Lets start by mentioning that the extinction of our species is mathematically inevitable, due to the rapid destruction of our planet's environment. After all, we are all living off of this planet, and we are doing quite a bit of damage to it. And even though all things must come to an end sometime (in short, we are going to be extinct sometime in the future), making that end come a lot faster than it should have been is not a very desirable thing.

Now, having established that we must do something in order to stop this kind of destruction we do to our planet, we must first determine the root causes of this behavior. After all, if a friendly alien species were to visit the Earth, after some investigating, they would be rather curious as to why we are destroying our own environment. It all may seem normal to you, but having never seen anything else, all this damage to Earth may see natural to you, but its not. So far none of the established institutions of the existing society has ever tried to address the root causes of this human behavior, and attempt to solve these problems effectively. When someone does something that is considered legally wrong, (aka criminals), we put these people to jail, to contain them and keep them away from lawful citizens. This is like somebody shooting at you, and you applying a bandage to the wound, and expect it to heal. It wont, because the bullet will still be there, inside your body. Just like that, the root causes of criminality, violence, greed, corruption, hatred, prejudice, and everything that is wrong in this world are still there. Applying a bandage to them does not solve these problems.

Having understood that, we must now attempt to solve these problems, by changing everything in our society, including the way we think. But I skipped a very important factor in the equation. Our society's core, and that is money for labor.

In our society, each individual has to earn their living, by way of manual labor (work). This may be a service (doctors, lawyers, etc), or physical labor (builders, carpenters, etc). Working, means that you do something, for someone else, usually for an extended period of time, every day, in order to acquire some money. But what is money? Can we eat money, wear it as clothing? No, but we can purchase goods and services with it, essential being a form of barter. So money should have the same value as goods and services available in market. In other words, for every car, house, cell phone, internet or phone service, etc etc that is out there, should be an equal value in money, in order to purchase it.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Why?

And that brings us, to the Federal banking system. The Federal banking system, was introduced by the bank of England around 1800s, if I am not mistaken. This banking system, allows banks to create money out of thin air, through debt. In short, as long as there is someone that wants to borrow any amount of money from a bank, money will continue to expand forever. But here's the tricky part. In order for money to be created, a central bank must first loan money to the government. In short, money can only be created through debt. But hey, if money can only be created through debt, by way of bank loans, and can only be expanded through more loans, then technically, 1. money has no real value, since it does not represent anything (gold, silver, etc), and 2. money will continue to expand forever. However, I have deliberately "forgot" to mention 1 thing:

The application of interest. When a bank loans money to someone, whether that someone is a citizen, corporation, or a country's government, the debt always has to be repaid back with a set amount % of interest. That means, that if I borrow 100 dollars from a bank, with 2% interest, I will have to pay back 102 dollars.

But if money can only be created and expanded through loans, and these loans have to be repaid back with interest, then where is the money supply to pay the interest? Nowhere. It doesnt exist. The only way to pay off the loans+interest is to borrow more money, and that is why inflation is always a problem, and money will expand forever. But if money keeps expanding, and everyone owes something to everyone, with most people unable to pay off their debts because the money supply is always short, then what happens then? Someone always goes bankrupt, thats what happens. This is why there are poor and rich people, with the poor consisting more than 80% of the human population, and the richest people on earth consisting 1% of the population.

But again, I forgot to say something. A very important "feature" of the Fed banking system:

When, say, a government, needs some money, it has to borrow some from a central bank. So lets say, that the US government borrows 10 million dollars, from the Fed bank. The Fed says, "ok, we will buy 10 million USD in government bonds". The government then takes some pieces of paper, paints some official looking designs on them, and calls them "treasury bonds", with a set amount of 10 million. The Fed, takes some pieces of paper, paints some official looking designs on them, and calls them "Federal Reserve Notes", also with a set amount of 10 million. The Fed then trades the reserve notes (money) for the treasury bonds, and thats it. 10 million USD has been created.

Now, logically, this 10 million will be deposited in some bank. Once the deposit has been made, automatically, 10% of that deposit is held as a "reserve", and the other 90% is considered an excessive reserve. What does this mean? Well, this means that 90% of every deposit made in some bank, can be loaned to anyone, as long as there is a demand for that loan, simple as that. Now, it is logical to assume, that the bank takes that 90% of the 10 million dollars (9 million), and loans it to the person who requested that loan. That is not the case. This 90%, means that the bank has the right to create the same amount of money, on top of that 10 million, so if you were to borrow 9 million from a bank that has a deposit of 10, the bank would give nothing of its own, creating 9 million out of thin air, expecting you to pay it back with % interest.

So now that we borrowed 9 million USD, we can make a deposit in a different, or even the same, bank. The process repeats itself. From that 9 million we borrowed, 900 thousand is isolated, and 8,1 million is available for new loans. So on, so forth.

Basically, for every dollar deposited in some bank, 9 times that amount can be loaned, theoretically, if people were to borrow every single penny the bank has got.

Now that we have established that money has no real value, and is created out of thin air, being borrowed from the central banks, and expanded through commercial banks, the logical question would be, "how is that fair?" Of course, it is not. It defeats the whole purpose of the system, because the system is flawed by default.

When someone buys stocks, and earns money because of it, offering nothing in our society, basically leeching the already short money supply, that means that they are literally leeching money from someone else who needs it more. To cut a long story short, and to skip the millions of examples that come to mind, the monetary system is designed to favor only the elite, and to let most people starve, so the few can live in wealth. If everyone could pay off all their debt, including interest, there would not be a single dollar/euro/pound on the market. Money would cease to exist.

Now, having explained some very basic knowledge about the monetary system we use, it is important to say, that we believe that we need money in order to survive and co-exist. Otherwise everyone would want everything, stealing from each other, and causing a state of mass chaos. Right?? That is what you have been taught.

The truth is, that money is the most useless thing that exists in this world today, logically speaking. For, you cannot eat money, you cannot dress with money, you cannot provide yourself shelter using money, you cant do anything with it, technically. What humans need, are some basic goods and services, right? Like food, water, shelter, etc etc

So, the question is not, "do we have enough money to...." the real question is, "do we have enough resources on earth, to provide everyone with every basic thing they need?" Yes, we do. We have more than enough resources of food, water, materials to build houses, schools, hospitals, etc for everyone on earth. But who will do all that? Many people will have to work in order everyone to acquire these goods and services. No, that is not necessary. Right now technology is has advanced enough, so that more and more machines are replacing humans every day. Entire work crew from factories get fired, because they are replaced by robots. Cars, that are a lot more complex than chairs, tables, doormats, are being constructed exclusively by machines.

This means, that we can eliminate human labor by 90%, regarding the production of goods. Regarding services most of these jobs will be obsolete, if money, laws, governments do not exist. Because, what would a lawyer be useful for? You get the point.

Now, I admit that we cant do everything using machines, but we can cover most things, eliminating manual labor. Some people, will have to to contribute something to society though.

More analytically: If I were to invent an electric engine, that can fit a car (I know electric cars already exist, duh, it is only an example), that produces nothing hazardous for the environment, and has a very good autonomy, I would do it because I like doing it, because I enjoy give something back to society, that provides food, shelter and everything I need, to me. I do not need to remind you of people like Albert Einstein, the Wright brothers, Nicola Tesla, etc etc, who contributed such useful inventions/discoveries to society, and expecting nothing much in return. These people are not multinational companies that gain money from their inventions.

Basically, in a resource based system, everyone would do something they really love to do, whether that is painting, writing a computer program, designing buildings, etc, without having to do something they hate, and that contributes nothing real in society.

What we must first do, is survey our planet for every energy resource available with regard to environmental friendliness, and efficiency. Right now, we are burning fossil fuels, at 1000 times their renewability rate. Fossils fuels also exhume hazardous fumes to the environment. That means that we are using one of the worst energy sources on a mass scale. Why? Because the big multinational companies need to make money from it, they dont want to go bankrupt.

Once we have surveyed our planet, we can see that we have numerous choices, from solar energy which is incredibly abundant, to wind energy, tidal energy, wave energy and geothermal energy. All these energy sources combined together, if exploited to a minimum, can power the entire world forever. Hard to believe? Solar energy alone, can power the entire planet forever, if we only exploit 1% of the solar energy being available on earth, theoretically.

Having said that, once we build an efficient energy harnessing system on earth, that is 100% renewable over time, and does not harm the environment, we can move on to more difficult tasks.

How could we provide everyone with goods and services? As I mentioned before, with the application of technology, aka machines. Some people will have to contribute something, volunteering though? Yes, that is correct. But you cannot conceive that, can you? Let me tell you something. If someone told you, that you can have every single thing you need in this world, (materially speaking), and having to do nothing at all to acquire these things, would you really sit on your couch for the rest of your life? I know I would definitely wouldnt want to live such an insanely boring life. I would want to contribute something to society, give something back, so to speak, because that would give me psychological gratification, on top of the physical gratification I receive from all the luxuries I am provided with by society.

If less than 5% of the world's population contributed something to society, and everything else could be done with machines, wherever applicable, then we pretty much have everything we need. Ask yourself: How many times, have you done something, for someone else, expecting nothing in return? I, personally, cannot count these occasions. Why do you do something for another human being, if you get nothing in return (no profit)? Because it satisfy you, emotionally.

Now is the time where you tell me that people are bad, that most people wont care about others, that conflict is in human nature, etc etc.

First of all, there is no human nature. That is something that people use as an excuse. It has become known, that scientists have discovered the "smoking gene", aka the part of the DNA that determines if you are gonna smoke in your life or not. Come on, you must be really dumb to believe that

Let me tell you something: if you were born in Turkey, you would probably be speaking Turkish, and be a Muslim, right? Why? Is it some gene or something? Of course not. It depends on the environment you were raised in, aka human nurture.

Human nature is the needs for food, shelter, warmth, sleep, etc, some very basic needs that we share with animals.

Human nurture, is everything you pick up along the way. If I were to raise a child, and taught them that Muslims or Christians are evil, that they are only bad people that only mean harm, then that child would grow up believing that, being almost completely unable to change their mind. Strong prejudice can be created through human nurture. If I were to beat up my child, and treat them worse than a pig, that child would have some serious problems growing up. They would even end up on living a miserable life, having serious mental problems, or they would become criminals, etc.

If we can provide our children with the right environment to grow up to, then we can expect them to be much better people than us. The human brain is an incredible learning machine, that can achieve greatness, as well as be nothing better than an animal.

But how can we do that? How can we change as a species if we are already nurtured with these sick notions of our current society? It is difficult, but not impossible, and can only happen gradually over time.

Nobody is being born thinking, "hey, I want to kill some black people, because I just dont like them." or, "I am going to sell drugs for a living, and I couldnt care less for the hundreds of people I am going to kill through selling drugs". Something happens along the way. People do bad things for a reason. And instead of trying to remove these people from society, we should try to remove the root causes that led to these symptoms.

Now that we have established that human nurture is responsible for most conflict that exists in our world, it is important to mention that providing everyone with everything they need in life, is going to solve most of these problems.

Also, the idea of property must cease to exist, for someone cannot steal something that doesnt belong to anyone. In fact, why would you even steal a car, if you already have that exact same model for you, available whenever you want?

What if something is unique, something that someone made, and you want it as well? Like we already mentioned, when someone makes something, like a beautiful painting, or a very nice song, they make it available for everyone, receiving credit for it, and emotional gratification that they contributed something to society.

Quick Example: You can download that song from the internet, and the painting that Mr X made is uploaded as a picture on the internet, and if many people like it, it may come into production, providing everyone who wants it for purchase.

I already feel too tired from typing, lol, but.....oh well

Having said all that, if someone stops and considers every possible aspect, thinking (can all this be made possible?), they will realize, that yes, physically, it is possible, the only thing that stops us, is our mind. Your mind tells you that you that this cannot happen, because you have never seen any kind of society like this one. People need to start thinking outside of the box, and realize that all this CAN happen, the only barrier is if we want it to happen. Some people are also brain-washed from society in such an extent, that not only they cant think outside of the box, but also they will do everything they can to protect the system.

"Every organism on this planet lives in harmony with the environment, however you humans do not"

Once we realize that we are all one, one nation, one species, one planet, one universe, then we might have a chance of actually transforming the human mind, because our mind is the root of every good and bad thing in our society. That is our weapon, our core, and our soul.

Finally, in the end we will realize, that we dont just have the option to change, we HAVE to change. We are a train heading towards a cliff, with no brakes on, or any other way to stop. Extinction is inevitable, the question is when. We can prolong it, while there is still time, or we can run at full speed, and fall on that cliff a lot sooner.

 

I am sorry for the long post.

Anyone reading this, please be aware that I excluded many things from the resource based system (venus project), missing a lot of certain sections, while being hindered by my imperfect English, and my FAIL ability to express myself. You should also be aware, that some things I said are my own personal beliefs, and that I didnt copy/paste anything from any article.

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January 9, 2011 8:40:03 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Oatesy03,
He is, after all, Limey Space Marine, most trusted of the Adeptus Custodes, and one of the few beings in the Imperium to know the most little-known secret of the High Lords of Terra.

OOOH SECRETS.

Perhaps Limey Space Marine will share with Inquisitor Whiskey144?

After all, the Inquisition does have more power than you can shake a stick at. (no, really, it does)

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January 9, 2011 8:42:46 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Altaux,
all i was saying is that if you look at all things your ideal society contains, and you look at the definition of a communist state the two look similar. If they are not the same that is understandable, but you must admit they look similar.

But like limeyman i do not understand how you would implement such a thing.

Anyway sorry if I offended you by calling your ideal system communism, but the two are very similar.

I am calm

And I think I already mentioned that yes, there are some similarities there (or maybe I didnt admit it? cant remember ).

It is not my ideal system, it is the logical choice if we want to continue living in this earth.

And no you didnt offend me.

I just wanted to make you understand, that Communism is a different thing.

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January 10, 2011 1:52:03 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Perhaps Limey Space Marine will share with Inquisitor Whiskey144?

The Limey Space Marines knows, through being the agent that acquires this mysterious fuel, that the Golden Throne runs, not only on the Emperor's will, but also on tea, which is the only thing keeping the Emperor awake all the time.

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January 10, 2011 5:57:37 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I read morph's long post

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January 10, 2011 7:09:11 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

You guys talked commie witout me

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January 10, 2011 11:10:08 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Oatesy03,

Perhaps Limey Space Marine will share with Inquisitor Whiskey144?

*CENSORED BY ORDER OF THE INQUISITION*

WHOAH.

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January 10, 2011 12:23:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

 

IFear really is a ghost...

-Twilight Storm | Is recovering from a heart attack caused by morph's mile long post.  (I still hold the record though!!!)

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January 10, 2011 12:29:11 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Yeah, he's a ghost, you didnt know that?

Quoting Twilight_Storm,
  Is recovering from a heart attack caused by morph's mile long post.  (I still hold the record though!!!)

Sorry about that

Quoting Altaux,
I read morph's long post

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Quoting IrationalFear,
You guys talked commie witout me

Nah, it was all just some blah blah of mine. You know, huge wall of text, and all that

J/K, yeah we did talk commie

 

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