Doesn't make any sense to me, why not?  Because one team does not get stomped?  You learn just as much as you would otherwise, even more so if teams are even - the nuances that lead to a win. 

What do you learn on uneven teams?  team that gets stomped can learn builds and team work same way as they would if teams were balanced and teamwork existed.   Team that does the stomping learns a lot less.  even teams => more improvements. 

So noobs would learn more if teams were pro pro nub vs pro pro nub as opposed to nub nub vs pro pro so long as pros on each team show teamwork.  At the very least not less.

No, there's a major difference between beginners getting stomped by 'pros.' There a very large swath of players who have no idea what builds are good, how to itemize, when to use consumables, or that mid and early game portal caps are devestating. Players with over a 1000 games simply have no idea how to play this game because they dont' fight harder opponents. There's no excuse.

true but than your topic seems misleading;) 

i associate team balancing with game lobbies that fill up and than spread ppl as equal as possible, ex: 40 50 70 vs 40 50 70.  40 will learn if he/she pays attention

it should say to get better you need to play vs people better than you are = true; but u can also get better by playing balanced teams with people better than you, i think that'll be even more helpfull for anyone.  So balanced games are still good imho;P

In my opinion the window in which you can learn a whole lot from a game is pretty narrow. The point where mistakes are made up utnil it becomes unwinnable is oftentimes the only informative part, and the smaller that window the less likely people are to learn from it.

I really think the fact that you see regulus in 70% of the games you join is one of the many examples of evidence that players aren't fighting harder battles as time goes on, they're just finding equally mediocre opponents. The other day I had guys on my team with over 500 games and they didn't even undertand why I destroyed the enemy portal towers (on cat). Once those towers were down the three of us killed two on the other team, capped cooldown, and then they ran from a 3v1 at the portal flag... I was dumbfounded, but it's really not al lthat uncommon.

Since when do you see reg? What games do you join? I go exclusively for non-noob games (when they're open, which is ~80-90% of the time) and I haven't seen a reg in over a week. Basically all I see is the tier 1, sedna, rook, and sometimes DA.

I do agree though, the number of "experienced" players who make atrocious mistakes is stupidly high. Reading even the most basic of item/strategy guides would help so many people so much.

I think this is the heart of what you're trying to say, you should probably expand on it more.  Like most games of its type, demigod suffers badly from the snowball effect, once you make one too many mistakes, you fall behind enough that nothing you do even matters at that point.

Once you've reached the point of no return, there is no value in playing the game further.  The problem is that most people have absolutely no idea when that part of the game has been reached, so they cannot learn from the part of the game that actually mattered, since they don't know when to look.  What could you possibly learn from playing a match as... say... a level 6 regulus vs. a level 9 erebus?

Chrome Quote:

"reg is severely under-rated imo"

-[ShakeNBake]

Shake is a sick little Reg. Had one hell of a game the other day and Shake was a bad ass Regulus. So many snipes. lol.

Let me ask you this; at what point did this go from being a game ment to entertain to being something that playing with noobs will make you nervous at all? If you can't enjoy simply playing with other players noob or not  then why do you play games at all? This isn't something that sucess or failure changes your fate.... or did this become saw at some point?

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Yes i`m playing for fun. Its a great pleasure to see that your teammate is using his brain and competent. And there is no fun to brag about player`s build. when i see our speedy ub in 3x3 prison against ooze ub there is no fun. Only embarrasment.

When i see a spit and run against a minion oak and a minion erebus, with a healbot sedna (me) and da.... i quit

I think people learn from games that they pat attention to...

and people pay attention to games that are close because they are exciting.

Every time I have a noob on my team I completely zone out trying to educate him by typing and end up dying more then they do, which isn't fun or education for anyone.

if they were on vent they wouldn't be noobs now would they?

Some players are middle of the road average and haven't learned the game yet, some players mentioned in this thread are bordering on excellent players (i.e. they have growth potential if they would just take the time to analyze their errors), I learned quickly after people criticized my playstyle and asked me why I wasn't HP stacking... I was like "WTF hp stacking, you serious?" and they were like "lol u newb".  The best thing you could do is tell them to record replays and observe player behaviour or tell them what kind of builds to do outright - i.e. if you see people not HP stacking, tell them to stack and WHAT to stack in WHAT order tell them not to go crazy on citadel upgrades (i.e. spend all their money) if they got no + hp items for themselves.  Citadel upgrades should be spread among the team so people can upgrade their equip so no one is left at HP disadvantage.

I've seen UB's never get sigil! Sigil is like a fucking requirement if you are going to play UB ffs.  There are lots of average players who think they are good, these are the kinds that chastize good players.

It's funny when I get people insulting me on my own team who don't realize they are newbs, next game I will play with some good players with no qualms whatsoever.  Part of my horrible % comes from pantheon and from the time when I was new and chose TB for most of my pantheon games not realizing the horrible unbalanced nature of Ereb and Oak minions on fortress and whatnot in generals vs assasins.  In team games I didn't realize how much the game centered around HP stacking and sigils, which caused frustration for my team mates because I would always run from fights not realizing I was the douchebag that hadn't HP stacked (laughs), I didn't realize it until someone pointed it out.  Most of my crappyness came from not having +HP items like Blood of the fallen + armor when being oak, people would get horribly frustrated and say "oak you suck!" and they were right but they were not helping the other person better themselves by pointing out their flaws, if you want to be serious point out WHAT the did wrong.

When I first started playing I had no idea Hp stacking was so powerful, and would run around under HP'd and run from fights because I would constantly get smoked (see my life just go way down) and didn't realize it was because of my lack of HP.

The game center's too much around items in general (specifically sigil + HP items) and if the player doesn't know about this he will wonder why he is getitng creamed.  Many players really don't understand the power of +hp and sigil, in fact often times no players on my team will ever get sigil not realizing stacked hp + sigil = lifesaver.

I have a recorded game where I made my escape of death twice with sigil+hp stack that I couldn't have done otherwise.  Don't whine about these players - teach them - criticize their playstyles tell them what they are doing wrong, they need to KNOW.  Some players think they are hot shit but aren't, others get called newbs but are not newbs.  Personally players have to find heroes the are good with, you also have to teach them the items to get and builds for each.

Sometimes it's about teamwork, othertimes it's about not knowing the power of items like sigils, locks, teleports... and other times it's some team members on your team are just CHICKEN SHIT to go run in and cap gold flags (like sedna for instance).  I had a sedna's on my team that would just sit there and not go harass towers or cap flags.  You have to get a feel for what you should be doing at any given moment depending on where the enemies demigods are positioned and you should not waste time squanderingin your lane if they all occupied elsewhere and you can squeeze in some tower harassment or flag cap and lock.