Just a thought but at lvl 15 gold buffs even +6 aren't that great perhaps you could split the gold 2 2 2 amont the lvl of entourage then reduce each lvl of lifesteal by 4% then finally as the lvl 15 skill give a plus 8% to lifesteal making the end result

20% lifesteal(maybe op but she only gets it at lvl 15) and a decent gold boost throughout the game which might help compensated for her need for mana items

DISCLAIMER: i don't play Queen. So these are just ideas.

Yay, so how is ground spikes and shield burst coming alone? I'll test this asap

Sounds like you're really coming along nicely morph, so I hate to kinda pop the bubble but: Doesn't a life steal aura seem out of place for a "Queen of Thorns".

What about a combined Armor and Speed tap? Decrease the movement speed and armor of the enemy, and increase it for QoT and minions. Something like "Tangling Vines" and "Hardened Tangling Vines"

Just some thoughts anyways:)

Level 1 minions and rank 1 idols do ~25 dps. With a life steal aura of 10% they would gain regeneration of 2.5 hp per hit. That's not really going to make a difference. The bigger gain would be other demigods. Low level demigods do ~150-250 damage, which is 15-25 health per hit. That isn't a trivial amount.

I have to say I'm against the lifesteal aura. Lord Erebus doesn't gain his equivalent one until level ~15.

Here's a rundown of the aura effects.

Torcher Bearer: +attack speed +speed -enemy speed -enemy attack speed

Lord Erebus: +lifesteal

Sedna: +heal +recharge skill speed

Unnamed Beast: -health (ooze)

Rook: Nothing

Oculus: +lightning proc

Demon Assassin: nothing

Oak: +armor + healing

Where do you want the queen to fit in? Should she duplicate someone else?

Where do you see the QoT closed form? In combat? Outside of Combat? Passive support?

Here are some other alternatives.

Mana regeneration aura. That would make her in high demand. One could treat entourage as essentially buying the mana helms with skillpoints instead of gold. That way should would be free to have items other than the customary 2 (or even 3) helms.

The gold aura idea was also not bad. I don't see anything wrong with giving her teammates gold. I'm also not sure what the problem was with coding it. You should be able to directly steal the code from her level 15 ability.

Anti-mana regeneration and Anti-health regeneration. If enemy units come within her aura they lose health and mana regen.

Health degeneration - A long range ooze

Mana degeneration - A long range mana ooze

Corpse bomb - When units die within her aura they explode, i.e., UB's corpse mortem.

Anti-armor aura - When units are within range they suffer a percentage armor drop.

However, all of this is pure speculation. Until one gains enough experience with the QoT, I'm not sure one should make vast balance changes. We can all agree that she is weak, but the changes to compensate for that should be driven by those players that will use her. One thing to avoid is the portable-buff machine problem. No demigod should be forced to walk around behind other demigods for the sole purpose of buffing them. It makes for annoying game play, and really offensive players. Consider the pounce-build sedna's who get yelled at for not healing the UB on the other side of the map. The QoT already suffers from this, to increase the likelihood of this happening would only make her less popular not more.

One minor and positive change that I do think would be appropriate is to increase her shield duration. Currently it is 30 seconds, I don't see a problem with it lasting 60 or 120 seconds.

As a caveat to this my primary demigod is the QoT. I typically play her with Blood of the Fallen, monks, shield/ground spikes & 1 point into the spike slow. She does okay, but she isn't a frontliner with her fragility.

Actually I meant it as a speed/armor aura tap. I was thinking, perhaps have it scale according to the number of DGs it is hitting. This would have the interesting effect that the more people you send at QoT at the same time, the higher her armor, and faster she moves/lower your armor, and slower you move. ( Obviously, the exact numbers would have to be somewhat small, and the scaling would have to have diminishing returns. IE: Something like for 1 enemy: 5% speed and armor decrease for them, and 5% increase for yours., 2 enemy 7.5 percent, 3 enemy 9.75%, etc. Not exactly a tap btw, as it would just increase your own armor/speed by that percent. ) The first level could be just the speed, second adds the armor, 3rd increases range, 4th increases range and the percents.

EDIT: I was thinking, QoT already has a way to decrease armor. It would be OP to add a second. So, I was thinking health instead. Basically "Queen commands the life in the area to give up its life to aid her allies, and destroy her enemies."

P.S.: The tap is supposed to give the bonus to allies as well. Only DGs for both the negative and positive effects btw.

Simple answer:

I am not skilled enough to do this

So, it might be a little late and my faitgue might be making me sensitive, but I sense a certain amount of patronizing here. I appologize if that's not the case. If it is the case, well I expected better.

In the .lua auras are created by applying a buff (or debuff) to all appropriate targets within a certain distance, which is checked at a certain time intervals. The mechanics for positive effects (e.g., like Healing Wind), and the code for negative effects (e.g., Frost Aura) are very much the same. The difference between Ooze and Frost Aura is simply that Ooze has an on/off switch. Hence my inclusion of all of these as potential auras. If you wish to restrict the QoT to an ally specific positive aura, that's fine. However, to say that Frost Aura (an enemy debuff) isn't an aura, is somewhat odd.

I created the list as a rough picture of the abilities of the demigods, I wasn't trying to be exhaustive, merely descriptive. Given that I'm uncertain what division you are making with auras, I shall not be more specific. However, I will note that I was referring to Healing Wind and Magnificient Presence, although I should probably have added Counter Healing to the list as well.

I have been interpreting aura as any Area wide effect that persists for an extended period of time (and not a temporary 10 second buff). Hence my inclusion of the Oak as having a healing aura with Divine Justice. His spirit totems, as noted by JagerJack, do grant armor bonuses.

I'm not certain what you mean by a Mana Aura being out of place. The QoT already grants herself a mana regen buff when in closed form. The extension of granting her allies mana regeneration as well seems reasonable. Her background story presents her as a rather unpleasant lady focusing on magic due to her lack of physical abilities. The third alternative, is that you don't believe it fits her needs as a playable character. That's a reasonable position, however I would inquire as to what you think she does need? I attempted to phrase this question in my previous post, but I wasn't clear enough. What do you want to accomplish with the QoT? What roles will the modifications make her better at? What are her weaknesses? Her strengths? Until one answers these questions, it does seem that the work will be unguided and potentially misdirected.

re:Gold Aura

Unrelated to the main point, I wonder if minions were gaining gold, and if that actually did anything. It has already been established that her level 15 ability of granting +4 gold income to everyone is rather bad. However, you have now made the claim that having a +2 gold aura at early levels is over powered? It seems to me that these two lines of thought have to cross at some point. How much extra gold would you consider to be balanced? Another line of thought on this issue is that a gold mine gives you 4 gold per second. The aura, with +2 gold per second, would give your team an extra half a gold mine... Again, unless I am misunderstanding, that seems to be a bit underwhelming, not overwhelming. Also Currency 1 grants +4 gold per second.

So, as a regular QoT player I do have some idea of the pains she suffers. I understand that you have a tremendous amount of Demigods experience, far far more impressive than my own meager record. However, in this case I must suggest, as you yourself have pointed out, that because of your inexperience with the QoT, you should be careful about following your intuitions.

So, I've noted you are a regular Erebus & Regulus player. Have you ever been worried about a QoT in your lame? Probably not.

Quick question: What's the easiest way to protect a fellow demigod from being attacked as a QoT.

Answer: Walk into melee range of whatever is attacking them, they will automatically switch to attacking you.

As a QoT, my #1 cause of death is going to save the suicidal Oak/UB and then getting killed when they run away and the enemy switches their attention to me.

What's the point of all this? Well, I find it tragically funny. It also points out that the QoT is different than many of the other demigods, hence we shouldn't scoff at potential ideas just because they seem overpowered. The QoT isn't going to be in melee combat unless something is going wrong. Nor will melee combat last very long, she doens't have staying power, unless it is a 1v1. If it is a 1v1, the other demigod is better off ignoring her and doing something useful with their time.  Hence, things that may seem overpowered, like a low cost mana draining ooze, might be worth considering. It won't be that devestating, because no one is going to be inside it for very long.

I've got my own ideas and thoughts about the QoT, but this isn't my soapbox.

One last bit, the aura that increases its effects based upon the number of enemies within range is mechanically interesting. However, if the QoT is outnumbered she is either fleeing or soon dead. There isn't a whole lot of value in making a really cool ability that isn't really functional. It would be like the Ironwalkers or Sam-El's Cloak, if you need it you are already losing. It seems to me that something that helps her get an advantage would be better than something that let's her slows her agonizing crawl of death. If you want to experience slow agonizing death, play as the QoT against assassins with the poison dagger. Sad times... Really sad times...

Anyway, I think I'm done. If I came across harshly or insulting that's not what I meant. I'm merely trying to provide some feedback and offer a few points of consideration.

Wait are you talking about as a active skill attack, or a passive one? Because that would to my knowledge overpowered combining it with ground spikes which already debuffs armor.

I havent tried it online yet but yay im back in my apartment so my ping will go back to normal. Meaning I'm going to try this mod online soon, but the only real problem I have with it is the vampiric effect  seems to have no difference between what it adsorbs from creeps and demigods,  and neither does it seem to break apart when qot is attack 4 - 5 creeps at once. Is there a way to fix that or is that some complex coding?

First off I must disagree with you, because my main cause of death is not suicidal oak or ub, but instead my own ignorance of not analyzing the situation properly.  I noticed in games where I stayed on top of my game I survived 3 on 1 (me being bombed by oak, ub and ere) by knowing when to pull out, timing my shield exactly right so I take as minimal damage as possible. And munching like my life depended on it which it did lol.

Secondly if a queen of thorns is surrounded by enemy creeps and is about to die than the player is most definitly doing something wrong so please dont put the blame on queen of thorns for ones own inability to survive a creep wave. even surviving one or two demigod is not impossible, and hell I have seen people get very mad because she this so called incredible underpowered demigod could escape their bashing.

Thirdly the level 15 the 4+ gold is useless because you are either winning meaning you more than likely dominate majority of the map, and have majority of the cent upgrades needed, or already attacking their centidale. Or you are losing meaning such boost wouldn't make much of a difference. At the beginning of the game the skill could easly break the game and make it one sided. I mean come on faster gold including currency one you could literaly dominate in cent or demigod upgrades just by focusing on creep killing. Also depening on the map if you can grab and hold the enemies currency flag than you have basically won the money game. Like I have said before  The game is linear with little to no X factor to shift the favor of power.

I am a regular QoT player and have I really worried about a reg or even ere early game? Not so much Mid game depends on the player and late game I probably dont even care about holding lanes anymore but more for destroying their defenses.

You are correct qot isn't like other demigods, but common sense should let you know even certain skill idea are simply overpowering. A qot shouldn't be in in melee unless the player is sure they can atleast push that demigod away or she know there is something she can fall back own. A creep wave, a tower, or an ally coming. These are factors A qot player should always consider attacking along side with. Unless it is an anime or a nuke quantity will more than likely out power quality in the long run.

This type of buff/aura fits fine to because she pulls from nature (plants and such.) And they pull there nutrients from other organism mainly decomposition can help plants grow so to me she is mostly being a parasitic weed  feeding on the living much like a vampire, but instead of blood she is taking nutrients. (Ok yea I am digging too much into it but still.)

@Morph: will the mod work online and if so will it work in any game or does it require the host to have the mod?

Thats exactly how I was thinking about it, and thats why it fits

As this is not an UI only mod, It requires ALL players to have it installed. The Host needs to have it enabled, and the other players at least installed.

Example: Mods like bman's Godlike Team Panel and Rampaging Minion Overlay only affect the UI (UI only) and thats why they dont require other players to have them installed.

This mod, is not UI only, so it requires all players to have it installed.

It is a Life Steal Aura. It affects all allies (Demigods, minions, etc).

I could change the name if you like. Just say the word.

Also, any feedback on it is greatly appreciated

Edit: 250 mana for summon shambler I seems like a really small amount. I can change it, but wouldnt it be too low cost?

Hmm I am not sure what you mean exactly

Can you describe it again?