I pirated Demigod

By on April 14, 2009 7:44:14 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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...to try it. And just moments ago, I bought it.

 

Just showing you guys that download-to-try pirates do exist

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April 14, 2009 8:13:04 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

This is why the game needs a demo.

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April 14, 2009 8:17:04 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

This is why the game doesn't need a demo.

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April 14, 2009 8:17:56 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Demo's released prior to game launches allow people to test it out, primarily undecided people. Many of them will not like the game, so the demo has a negative effect on sales. By releasing the game first, you get many of these undecided people with "itchy credit card fingers" purchasing a game they would otherwise not have (if they had played the demo).

People who pirate "traditionally" don't buy games, so any sales generated from that market are a bonus.

At least thats my take on the whole thing.

PS: Also a download-to-try pirate.

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April 14, 2009 8:20:14 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Yup. I always wonder why sometimes they (companies) don't release demos... it would help immensely. There are people that refuse to pirate to try because it's "wrong", so they just end up never trying the game and thus not buying it.

 

edit: "Many of them will not like the game, so the demo has a negative effect on sales."

Yes, but some games NEVER get a demo.

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April 14, 2009 8:24:11 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

This is why the game needs a demo.

People will buy the game if they like the game.

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April 14, 2009 8:36:28 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

You are so stupid, how can someone like a game without playing it?!

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April 14, 2009 8:38:55 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

This is why they are already working on a demo.

Patience, young padawan.

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April 14, 2009 8:39:43 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I think... this is why the game doesn't need a demo

 

... most of people know where to find a 'pirated' version... and as there is no need of crack or whatsoever : the single player mode is a demo in itself (sorry but for me single player is really not what this game is all about.. plus their is barely no storyline). If they like it, they buy it and play the real stuff... if they don't they just won't play it that much for free, as it is quite boring to play on one's own (in my opinion).

 

 

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April 14, 2009 8:41:28 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I download games too. Its great that guys out there use brains and won't use useless protections which costs extra money and are contraproductive. Since protection bothers only legal buyers (you know activation, reactivation, registration and god knows what else pirates don't even have to see) and ppl don't have to risk being infected with malware using keygens and cracks. I believe that there is also no money loss in piracy. If i don't know and cant try game, what's the point of buying it? I trusted my guts and preordered demigod, because I believe in Stardock, Gas Powered Games, Blizzard (can't think of others right now) to produce unique games always worth buying.

But for others its mostly paying for crap job made using some hardass template eyecandy graphics,without any gameplay idea at all. Probably lead under university guy in tie who barely seen any game ever and goes by charts.

I don't see need for demo, if someone want to play let them play fully to get feel of this great game, of course no multiplayer, support or download . And no Rook miniature .

 

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April 14, 2009 8:43:00 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

If a developer makes a demo it takes time aaway from the main game.  By doing the demo after release the customers that pre-ordered or bought at retail get the best experience.  Those folks that aren't sure will get teh demo later.  They get the benefit of the previous customer feedback and then get the demo.

Without a pre-release or on release demo . . a few early sales may be lost . . but not having a demo does not make the sales lost forever, right?

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April 14, 2009 8:56:05 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Well... i'm playing pirate version right now, until boxes arrive to stors in my country. Also had to chech if my PC will run the game (it starts to lag when there are too many creeps on the map.. looking for new graphic card right now).

On a side note, someone stated that pirate verion will lack day 0 patch. Well... it doesn't. It actualy had this patch applied before the day 0.

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April 14, 2009 9:02:13 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

i consider myselves to be warez guy. with access to many top private torrent trackers and ability to find everything.

but still i dont mind spending even 50$(e) on really good game. it seems that demigod will reach valve and blizzard games quality(thats why im buying it today after work).

also i like that they didnt include any DRM, coz most of games with heavy DRM, online activation and limited installation count release in few hours as CLONEDVD and then its just 1-3 days until crack is released. i admit that this will force few warez positive players to buy singleplayer game just to play it few days sooner. but in my opinion it wont even cover the DRM cost.

and mostly, thank (demi)god that its PC only.

 

good luck guys and dont let us down

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April 14, 2009 9:03:43 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I have in the past "checked out" (pirated) a game first before putting my money down.  But I like the way Stardoc operates, so both Sins and Demigod where pre-ordered.  No DRM and a good rep with customers deserves support.  BTW Demigod is pretty damn addicting.

 

JesterOC

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April 14, 2009 9:06:06 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Well, I did the same like the thread opener and Im going to purchase the game in some minutes.
It's a really good game which fascinated me and I always support good games!

Nice work by Gas Powered Games - as always

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April 14, 2009 9:14:25 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Cehan,
Well... i'm playing pirate version right now, until boxes arrive to stors in my country. Also had to chech if my PC will run the game (it starts to lag when there are too many creeps on the map.. looking for new graphic card right now).

On a side note, someone stated that pirate verion will lack day 0 patch. Well... it doesn't. It actualy had this patch applied before the day 0.

You could have purchased it online direct from Stardock.  Then there is no need to wait for boxed copies to arrive.

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April 14, 2009 9:45:42 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I actually managed to persuade some friends to buy the game right off the bat rather than pirate it to test it out. I do know some people who are thinking of pirating the game, but given the reviews from the rest of us, and after being told about the company they say they might just wait for a few "official" reviews to hit the net, and if they're good they'll go and buy the game. I really don't think that pirating is necessarily a bad thing... alot of people just pirate games to test them out and then decide to purchase them.

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April 14, 2009 9:54:46 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting JesterOC,
No DRM and a good rep with customers deserves support.  BTW Demigod is pretty damn addicting.


JesterOC

 

Quoted for F-ing truth! The only reason I did not pre-order Demigod like I did with Sins is because I was busy with work and would not have a chance to properly beta test it. When I saw the news story last night about Demigod being released early I was real tempted to find a torrent because I did not know much about the game, but I just said screw it and pulled out my credit card. Stardock is just like Bioware in that I will buy what ever game comes out because I know it will be good.

I was amazed when I randomly picked GalCiv 2 up at walmart for $20 and I ended up spending like 8hrs strait playing it. If I had today off work I would likely still be playing Demigod.

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April 14, 2009 10:58:55 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,

You could have purchased it online direct from Stardock.  Then there is no need to wait for boxed copies to arrive.

I was thinking about it, but then it turned out that will be able to buy the game for half the price with prepaid card for one store that was given to me.

Also i had to check if the game will run smoothly on my rusty PC. Since it doesn't i need to save as much as i can to buy new card.

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April 14, 2009 11:12:22 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I have alway pirate to try games out before I buy to many developers now adays either release a game thats not well thought out or tons of bugs (should of been in beta still). And all the retail stores refuse to refund money back for opened boxed and the company that is supporting the game says to talk to your retailer for the refund. Kinda of a catch 22. Stardock is pretty good about refunds though, if a game is really buggy. So the way I look at it is a company wants to rush deliever a product I just wont buy it and delete the pirated copy. If the game is good I'm all for buying it. If the company or retail stores accepted the game back after it was opened or companies would release quality products then there would be no reason for piracy at least for me. Its just a necessary evil, so you wont be out $50 for a bad product, and its not a money issue its a principle issue. As long as companies get away with selling shody products with no reprocussions they will continue to do it.

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April 14, 2009 11:36:42 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Hm... so i've got to say that I have been a pirate too... I wanted to know what I buy. But what I have seen amazed me. So I bought the game by digital download a couple of minutes ago.

A small question by the side... Why is the game not available yet in stores or at amazon?

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April 14, 2009 12:03:53 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

In the german amazon there is an estimated time of arrival at 07th may, 2009.

http://www.amazon.de/Atari-Demigod/dp/B001PBUN46

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April 14, 2009 12:41:20 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Zubaz,
If a developer makes a demo it takes time aaway from the main game.  By doing the demo after release the customers that pre-ordered or bought at retail get the best experience.  Those folks that aren't sure will get teh demo later.  They get the benefit of the previous customer feedback and then get the demo.

Without a pre-release or on release demo . . a few early sales may be lost . . but not having a demo does not make the sales lost forever, right?

 

Quoting this for truth!

Making a demo is not easy, it takes work.  It takes time, time away from finishing the main game -- which I'd like to point out often has the dev team working 60-72 hours a week (Crunching). 

Have you ever worked that much?  If you've not it often just looks like numbers but imagine this:

You wake up at 10:00am get to work at 10:30am.  You work till 1:30am get to home by 2am and basicly head right to bed.  That's your day when you're crunching on a game.  Granted that's an example of a bad bad crunch, and there are obviously crunches that don't demand quite so much time (better planned projects and the like).

Usually a developer is trying hard to just get the game done and does not have time to make a Demo.  I'd rather see 100% of the effort go towards the main game and the demo come a few weeks later.

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April 14, 2009 1:56:52 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Schnapsladen,
In the german amazon there is an estimated time of arrival at 07th may, 2009.

http://www.amazon.de/Atari-Demigod/dp/B001PBUN46

I know, Schnapsladen.

This morning I've been at Mediamarkt and asked about the game... They told me something about May so I looked at Amazon, same result. *grml* At least there is a digital download version.

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April 14, 2009 2:24:42 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I actually came to this forum to ASK where I could get a demo or trial.  My university blocks torrents and peer-to-peer, so I can't pirate-to-try.  I'm a huge supporter of Stardock and their non-DRM games, so if I'm even slightly interested in the game, I'll buy it.  But since I can't even try it out, I'm not going to waste my $50 (I like having the box/materials) on a game I haven't even found screenshots of.

 

Is a demo SHORTLY forthcoming?  Can anyone point me to an HTTP served pirate version?  I would just like to try this game before I buy it.

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April 14, 2009 2:31:34 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Rhah,
I have alway pirate to try games out before I buy to many developers now adays either release a game thats not well thought out or tons of bugs (should of been in beta still)

Quoting Rhah,
Its just a necessary evil, so you wont be out $50 for a bad product, and its not a money issue its a principle issue. As long as companies get away with selling shody products with no reprocussions they will continue to do it.

 

This is a larger truth than just games.  It's why I download and/or rip ***s and such from Net**** or the Library.  The MPAA and the RIAA and the companies that produce the media don't produce content worth paying for, even in a theater, so why should they get my money when I just want to see if I WOULD buy it even once in a while.

 

Companies that don't understand basic business principles about providing a product WORTH paying for are the ones who are upset about piracy.  It's companies like Stardock that understand that pirates COULD be their friends if treated with courtesy that survive and thrive.

 

Thanks Stardock.

 

 

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