danielost

yes but remember it is a show about star fleet not the military

and the federation military is not restricted by the prime directive ie they can go where ever they need to secure the federation

it isn't just one episode it is the entire xendy campaign


oh and the last time i checked the navy and the airforce were considered part of the military

this is the defference between star fleet and the military

star fleet explores and expands the federation

where as

the military defends the federation

i would think that the military gives up speed for more guns

Starfleet does not form until the last episode of ST:Enterprise. The folks Archer was getting in that episode really were military personnel. Also if I'm not mistaken, that episode was the same one or right around the same time that the Enterprise limped home after being soundly thrashed in battle and got more defenses and more offenses added to it.

A ground force military isn't particularly needed in the Startrek setting, especially in the ones that take place further and further into the future. Kirk frequently turned the ship's phasors to stun and put entire cities to sleep in the original series. The genesis probe has the ability to depopulate and repopulate a planet. In one of the next generation movies someone blows up a freaking sun. In one episode of the next generation (there was a trial to own a planet with a con artist claiming to be a god) Picard uses the ship's tractor beams to cause an earthquake as a demonstration. Large scale ground assault troops aren't exactly that important when compared to godlike powers of turning a city off, causing earthquakes, destroying solarsystems, and depopulating planets.

Stun the entire city would stun Klingons too .

you just have to assume standard counteractive technologies are in place such as transport disruptors, shields, field generators and tricoders.

Although counteractive technologies are deffinately inconsistent throughout the series.

As far as Star Trek episodes go, Star Fleet seems to be the space military and the exploration fleet. After all, when the borg cube attacked Earth, it was every Star Fleet craft that was there to defend Earth. They have never really made a distinction between the two as far as I know. I would assume that the Federation military would include troops to do things such as (for example) taking over a Federation starbase that has been captured by an enemy, protecting Federation planetary settlements, colonies, and installations if under threat from another ground force, or something like that.

 

 

when your being attacked by such a superier force you have to use everything you have.  Including the coast guard

Also, according to a fellow Trekker (whom I just called, disturbing his dinner), the Federation Marines are rather prominently mentioned in Undiscovered Country, too.

After Kirk and McCoy were taken by the Klingons for "assassinating" Chancellor Gorkon, Colonel West (played by Rene Whosheewhatsis, the guy who played Odo) was in the President's office, talking about a plan to use Federation Marines to rescue them.

 

Voyager had the help of a Borg.

 

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I have my own beefs with "Enterprise", and never really cared much for "Voyager". DS9 wasn't too bad, overall. But TNG and TOS....man; I can remember those days as a kid in the 70s, curled up on the floor in my bean bag chair, with a bowl of cheese puffs, watching the originals, over and over again! Yeah, okay....low-tech; but that was part of the charm, man! They've digitally re-done them now, adding in a lot of CGI bells and whistles. Even changed the color of the Enterprise to battleship gray.

The planets all have land masses and oceans, now, too, instead of just being big, pastel-colored balls. I don't like it. Give me the originals.

When TNG premeired, the purist in me was skeptical, but they won me over.

wait, was the next generation called "enterprise - the next generation"? because that is what I meant... the "new" enterprise show was shit.

No...."Star Trek: The Next Generation"; "Enterprise" was a completely different show. I'll watch it, but they screwed with the timeline of things, and that bothers me.

For one glaring example, they had phasers; they called them "phase pistols", and the ship-mounted versions were "phase cannons". Okay, and this is nitpicky and goony, I know, but if you watch "The Cage"; the original, unused 1964 pilot, with Jeffery Hunter as Christopher Pike, they had >lasers<. It was changed in the show, because Gene Coon realized that lasers were already a known commodity, even in the 60s, and they wanted the show to be fresh and new. So, they changed it.

Now; Pike commanded the ship for 2 five-year missions, which means "The Cage" takes place approximately 10-12 years before Kirk takes command of the Enterprise, give or take; but Kirk's ship (and Starfleet) had phasers. "Enterprise", on the other hand, takes place about 150 years before Kirk. They had phasers. How about a little continuity? Michael and Denise Okuda wrote an extensive and detailed timeline for all that stuff, so potential writers would have a referent. USE IT!

Another thing; there was an episode where they encountered Romulans; they didn't recognize the ships. Now, if you read the timeline, Earth should just have been coming out of the last of the Romulan Wars at about that time. They should have been all-too-familiar with Romulan ships. Now, I can't remember if they saw or talked to any Romulans in that episode, but that would have been a no-no, too; if you remember, in TOS episode "Blanance of Terror" they encountered a Romulan Bird-of-Prey, and Spock finagled a look inside the ship. They noted that before that time, no one of either race had ever seen the other. The Treaty of Algeron, the document that ended the conflict, was negotiated by subspace radio.

I know, It's just a show; but they KNOW perfectly well that there are obsessive nerds like me out here, who know and keep track of this stuff. "Enterprise" could have been better conceived.